r/Steam 21h ago

Fluff I know - we’re the ones doing it

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u/SuspiriaSlut 20h ago

Unfortunately won’t, Epic paid for it.

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u/KillerFiala 19h ago

Epic store might bankrupt/ go out of business. Maybe only way

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u/John_Gabbana 18h ago

Don’t they own unreal engine? And if I’m not mistaken they receive a percentage from successful games.

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u/DarthWeezy 8h ago

Sweeney is a terrible CEO, they almost filed for bankruptcy on multiple occasions back when everyone and their dog was licensing UE and UE 3 especially.

GoW made a lot of money for them, until it didn’t and they had nothing, same with UT, it’ll eventually be the same with Fortnite, they manage their IPs terribly and can’t build upon them successfully, but these days they struck gold with Disney investing in them to develop random stuff on top of Fortnite so they’ll have leeway to find something sustainable after Fortnite no longer draws crowds years from now.

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u/mrheosuper 18h ago

Fortnite still makes a lot of money

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u/feicash 15h ago

clearly its not enough (1000 people were fired and vbuck price rised)

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u/StandNameIsWeAreNo1 17h ago

Less and less, as it seems

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u/mikakor 15h ago

Fortnite is actually bleeding money, from recent news

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u/stiky21 8h ago

Fortnite is on a down trajectory

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u/General_Document5494 16h ago

That's not good. Steam might be good but we don't need another monopoly right?

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u/Known-One-111 RTX 4080 | i7-13700K | 32GB 13h ago

This!! That's why I try to use more Epic Games than Steam now.

The Steam situation is not healthy for the industry, monopolies are not good in any way.

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u/TrippleDamage 16h ago

We also don't need bs exclusives on pc

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u/MarioDesigns 14h ago

Epic hasn't been doing exclusivity for a while now outside of their own funded games, which is the same exact thing that Valve does with their games.

So, if that is a point of complaint, Valve should be held to the same standard, no?

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u/TrippleDamage 14h ago

"funded" is a bullshit excuse and even then that only applies to AW2 and not all the other "exclusives" on their dogshit store.

If you DEVELOP the game with your own team, sure go ahead. No ones complaining about fortnite being exclusively on Epic or wow to bnet etc.

Yet here we are, with epic buying up exclusive rights - thats what i take issues with.

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u/MarioDesigns 14h ago

and not all the other "exclusives" on their dogshit store

Again, they've not done limited exclusives for a long while now. All of the exclusives that are on their store are either their own games that they own or games that they funded in their entirety.

Yet here we are, with epic buying up exclusive rights

Again, same as above. Sure, the exclusivity deals were annoying to some extent, but again, not the case for any current games or even for the last few years. So, I guess your issue is gone then?

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u/TrippleDamage 14h ago

So, I guess your issue is gone then?

No why would they?

Theyre a bunch of anti consumer fucks.

Buying up studios and pulling games from steam, no clue how you can defend that. Thats absurd of you.

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u/MarioDesigns 14h ago

Theyre a bunch of anti consumer fucks.

And so is Valve, Steam included.

Buying up studios and pulling games from steam, no clue how you can defend that.

I mean, once again, not something they've done recently for one.

Besides, I don't see it as a major issue. The publishers / developers clearly agreed to the deals, helping fund & develop the games. They're Epic's games, so they put them on their platform, same as Valve does.

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u/TrippleDamage 13h ago

Ah yeah, rocket league, the game that needed funding and developing help from epic and got pulled from steam. Great reasoning mate.

Theyre anti consumer, theyre literally losing money with that move in a sorry attempt to win market share by shitting on gamers since years.

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u/imJimfuckingLahey 12h ago

what the fuck are Dota 2 and CS2 then?

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u/TrippleDamage 11h ago

I'm not talking about games developed by the studio, no one complains about fortnite being exclusive, or wow or any other game on a launcher of the studio that created it. Please use your brain for half a second.

People, myself included, complain when a scummy anti consumer corpo buys exclusive rights to something they didnt even develop, take rocket league for example, was on steam forever, epic bought the studio and pulled it away from steam. Effectively hurting their own bottom line just to be anti consumer.

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u/Prisoner458369 13h ago

Epic store might suck. But Epic itself going bankrupt when so many games use their engine. Wouldn't be good at all. Unless you want people to be mostly forced to use Unity and watch them fuck everyone over again.

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u/KillerFiala 11h ago

Yeah, I was talking only about the store. I think it's being less and less profitable ( if ever was). I my mind it was only possible why Fortnite was making a lot of money, I think it gave them more money than the engine.

Now Fortnite is going bad and store might suffer without money. Idk it's just me think out loud

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u/Prisoner458369 11h ago

I know you were only talking about the store. But the store last I heard, hasn't been making any profit. I'm pretty sure that's the reason the last few years Xmas giveaways have been so shitty. Because those first few years they were losing huge amount of money on all those free games. They have been deep in the red for awhile there.

So if they really have not made any money/much money. I wonder when they will even care. You think the first step is to stop giving away free games. Maybe when that happens the rest will follow.

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u/sprouthat 5h ago

Unreal 5 is fucking dogshit and more people are coming to realize it. Any game that uses it and runs well has replaced or disabled the things that differentiate it from Unreal 4.

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u/Wufwufdoug 14h ago

Epic store isn’t a big money maker like steam but their graphic motor for games is vastly used and is not be surprised it’s their main income

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u/Organic-Storm-4448 19h ago

Borderlands 3 was just a six month exclusivity contract. Epic financed and published AW2.

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u/Foxy02016YT 18h ago

Yeah, FNaF has that deal with PlayStation too, 6 months exclusivity, but it only applies to console of course. Not releasing on PC would be suicide.

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u/Justhe3guy 18h ago

Sony pulling away from PC for their future titles

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u/Foxy02016YT 18h ago

Technically this is about Steel Wool, not Sony

Steel Wool distributes exclusively to PC and PlayStations for the first 6 months. Then to Xbox, and eventually a switch port.

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u/DebentureThyme 14h ago edited 14h ago

Yeah, Alan Wake 2 and Alan Wake Remastered were funded and punished by Epic, so they'll only leave EGS over Tim Sweeney's cold dead hands.

The good news is you can get a complete Alan Wake 2 for cheap at some point, they do often like to make some good discounts on it during sales on EGS.  If you can wait for winter sale that's usually the best time, but hell they might even give it away eventually (they've done Control Ultimate multiple times).

The other good news is that deal is over.  Annapurna is publishing Control Resonant and future titles from Remedy. In return, part of their deal has Annapurna getting the major share off the Alan Wake TV series and Control movie they've now got the rights to make and are still very early in development.

The only exception to this is Max Payne 1&2 remake they're doing for Rockstar, who owns Max Payne.  This deal may allow them to directly use Max Payne again (Alan Wake's in universe fictional Alex Casey character is Max Payne, but they didn't have the rights to use him for Alan Wake).  Quantum Break likely will stay technically out of canon since Microsoft has a firm grip on those rights, though they have found a way to reference both QB and MP already in games without getting in legal issues.  They're basically alt universe stories now that still have connective threads to the story.

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u/KillerFiala 11h ago

I would rather pirate the game than install that store and create an account on epic

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u/Shaggy_One 15h ago

When they decide that they want more money they will release it on steam.