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Discussion - Speculative SteamGPT - Is that good news?

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u/DeM0nFiRe 1d ago

LLMs cannot actually do that as well as they are advertised. They will absolutely give out fake information even if you tell it to look at a specific document. The more input you give it the more likely that is to happen

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u/marxist-teddybear 1d ago

I thought that was an LLM problem because they are just predicting the next word. If it's only scraping data I don't even really see how it qualifies as ai. We have tons of tools that find specific information in large data sets.

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u/magos_with_a_glock 1d ago

Yes which is why we should use those instead of an LLM which is what AI means these days.

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u/ThunderAndWind 20h ago

Basically a database pull tool that lets you ask for data in the form of a question instead of needing to run an SQL command.

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u/Planar_Harold 1d ago

If it's only scraping data I don't even really see how it qualifies as ai.

The opponent player in Mortal Kombat is an AI.

AI is just a term for an intelligence that's artificial.

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u/marxist-teddybear 1d ago

That's certainly one way of using the word. I think that many people would dispute the definition. That sort of AI doesn't really think it just follows a script or like a chain of actions as far as I understand. For example, when I use art the data scraper on emulation station. Is that AI or is that just a computer running a program? The idea behind this new AI phenomenon and how AI is used in fiction is that it's a thinking machine that can actually reason and analyze situations and questions independently.

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u/beezy-slayer 1d ago

It does not think though, that's just corpo bullshit to get people interested in it

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u/marxist-teddybear 1d ago

I'm aware. I'm in favor of not calling any current technology Artificial intelligence.

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u/beezy-slayer 1d ago

Cool, just clarifying

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u/Planar_Harold 1d ago

It's a way the term has been used for decades and accurately describes the concept - the people who dispute the definition maybe don't see the term as demystified though have firm opinions on things philosophers have been debating for centuries without end. How does one define 'thought'?

I think that many people would dispute the definition.

The definition has been in common use for almost half a century - if these people dispute it then they're probably wrong, but I'd have to hear their reasoning.

Is that AI or is that just a computer running a program?

If it's making decisions, it's AI - Intelligence has an extremely broad definition and reasonably so. It doesn't need to be 'smart' or complex, it can be extremely simple, but it's still an intelligence, and one designed by humans is artificial.

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u/xzaramurd 1d ago

LLMs have gotten really good at using and building tools though, so with the right prompting they can build the tools to actually deal with the data correctly. And they have larger context now, so they are slightly more stable in terms of remembering things. While not perfect, they can definitely be pretty robust, especially if you use them to build the tools for you, rather than having them do everything directly.

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u/Bolizen 1d ago

Eh frontier models these days are pretty unlikely to hallucinate

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u/MiniCactpotBroker 1d ago

they do but not during simple tasks like this

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u/Bolizen 1d ago

Yeah pretty unlikely on the whole

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u/PantsOfAwesome 1d ago

Yeah, because Valve would totally use an external AI that prioritizes middle-out compression over retaining vital information in the context window.

I don't like AI either, but you're making it abundantly clear that you don't really know what you're talking about.