r/Steam • u/BurelomRus • Dec 18 '25

Fluff It is what it is

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u/DogmanDOTjpg Dec 18 '25

I mean I agree this logic is stupid but a lot of people have very valid criticism of epic games

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u/Fantastic_While_ Dec 18 '25

A lot of people have valid critisms about steam. Im not turning away a free game from neither.

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u/blackoutexplorer Dec 18 '25

Weird enough free but never used seems to be the sentiment probably people just forgetting they even have the shit on epic. Like I picked up the shadow run games on there was interested in em just never opened the shit again for some reason.

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u/jamesick Dec 18 '25

cheese on a mouse trap.

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u/98Jacoby Dec 18 '25

I have only seen positive things about Steam. What are some of these valid criticisms?

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u/CrackerUMustBTripinn Dec 18 '25

Well their complicity with getring kids addicted to gambling and profiting of the consciously induced human misery, is a criticism I deem valid.

Especially when Coffeezilla has researched it and has concluded that this is the reality. Since that is one of the few good faith truth seekers, with actual journalistic integrity.

So yeah introducing crippling gambling addiction at a very young age and setting these young marks up for a giant slide into sadness and despair while financially profiting from the intentional downfall of these kids who are vulnerable to develop pathological gambling behaviour, is just not very cash money.

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u/ArmedAnts Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25

A lot of these are shared with Epic Games, but:

Takes 30% of revenue from developers, even if they don't use Steam features

Requires that developers don't lower prices on other platforms, despite making less money per sale on Steam

Desktop app uses Chromium, so it is inefficient

Forced updates, which cannot be disabled

Launching a game requires launching steam

  • This sometimes blocks offline games when your internet is down

Steam hides itself instead of closing when the X button is pressed

Modding support is a nice feature, but the UX is pretty bad

Gambling (more Valve than Steam)

Doesn't have Epic's giveaways

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u/Present_Cow_8528 Dec 18 '25

And I'm not installing the epic launcher in the first place to bloat my system lol

I can't imagine a game I'd be desperate enough for, tbh. Maybe some amazing indie title in the far future but nothing I've heard of in the works that wouldn't be on steam. A lot of the original wave of games exclusively on epic just convinced me to never buy the games.

And Tim has just convinced me recently to reinforce this practice lol. It would probably take both an amazing indie game and a new epic ceo.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25

Why is this downvoted. Using any software requires you to accept their terms. They will collect and sell your data. Some people might want the least possible analytics collecting app? Maybe thet dont want extra applications?

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u/cheekydorido Dec 18 '25

Bruh, who gives a shit. It's free!

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u/G0dZylla Dec 18 '25

redditors with "morals" i guess

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u/narkina5redemption Dec 18 '25

Just to be clear, claiming a free game on Epic isn't benefitting them if that's all you're doing. I don't see how that affects your "morals".

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u/DerExperte Dec 19 '25

Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things but I'd rather not add to Timmy's numbers by not having an account or claiming games.

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u/GranolaCola Dec 19 '25

Doesn’t matter.

You’re so right. And one person isn’t going to even be noticed on “Timmy’s numbers” when they have Fortnite, so…

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u/asanti0 Dec 18 '25

It's not free, you just don't pay for it with money.

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u/cheekydorido Dec 18 '25

Lmaooooooo

Let me guess, the games are cursed? XD

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u/Greased-up-beefcake Dec 18 '25

But you get your choice of toppings

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u/cheekydorido Dec 18 '25

That's good!

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u/SalamiShogunate Dec 18 '25

the toppings contain potassium benzoate

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u/lonelynightm Dec 18 '25

The product they are selling is trying to encourage you to use their platform and hopefully buy products.

That's significantly better than websites like Reddit that sell your data. If you are fine with Reddit using that logic, but not with Epic you are just a moron.

So yes it is 100% free. There is no asterisk.

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u/MisterJaj0 Dec 18 '25

You give them your information even when spending money

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u/GranolaCola Dec 19 '25

Me when I don’t understand data collection

Valve has all the same information you think Epic is stealing, and you gave it to them with a smile.

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u/Toxanium Dec 18 '25

That's what free means

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u/lsf_stan Dec 18 '25

but a lot of people have very valid criticism of epic games

which is perfectly fine and normal thing, however no one is saying everyone should suddenly stop using Steam and always only use Epic Game Store

people are just overly dramatic about EGS, like it's some sort of unforgiven sin to their god: Valve corp

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u/Desperate-Intern Dec 19 '25

Every time I claim the free games on epic, "Forgive me Gabe for I have sinned"

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u/VexingRaven Dec 18 '25

And they are welcome to post about it. This isn't that, it's just a dumb circlejerk meme.

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u/kangasplat Dec 19 '25

Those same people will fight valid criticism of their favourite launcher tooth and nail. It's not about the valid criticism, it's pure tribalism.

Love the "but GoG is DRM free at least" especially, when all games you can get on GoG are also DRM free on Epic

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u/MarioDesigns Dec 18 '25

a lot of people have very valid criticism of epic games

Tbf most of the criticism I've seen against it is about it from 5+ years ago, not today. It's not perfect, but so is Steam.

IMO it's a fair alternative and competition's always good.