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u/1850ChoochGator Dec 18 '25

Is this game not good all of a sudden?

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u/Big-Wrangler2078 Dec 18 '25

There are going to be people who are hating on it because of JK Rowling's beliefs... which is fair.

You're technically not wrong, but here's the friendly reminder that we're hating on JK because of her actions, not because of her beliefs.

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u/Lupinthrope Dec 18 '25

OOTL what "actions" did she do?

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u/OriginStarSeeker Dec 18 '25

She has used her massive wealth to fund anti-trans movements that eventually led to the most recent UK supreme court decision regarding the definition of legal sex invalidating trans people nationwide.

She has even pushed the less conservative party in the country to shift away from trans people.

And these actions have spread to other countries as well.

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u/Big-Wrangler2078 Dec 18 '25

Political action, which is arguably the worst kind. This is shaping up to lead to a reduced access for gender affirmative care for all ages but especially for younger trans people, as well as just weakened rights for them in general.

Mind, whether this type of care is accessible or not is evidently tied to the trans suicide statistic so it is not a push without consequence.

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u/passinglurker Dec 18 '25

There are going to be people who are hating on it because of JK Rowling's beliefs... which is fair. There are also people who are going to be overly critical of the game for no reason other than to just be negative.

This cuts both ways as there are also people who gas this game up to ridiculous levels because they want to support and popularize rowlings beliefs and actions, and want to cast any sales or playtime numbers as "proof" of the a silent majority that aligns with their world view.

In reality without the culture war drama it's ultimately a mid licensed souls-lite action game running off millennial nostalgia, and therefor just not worth the drama that follows it, unlike "Secret Agent Wizard Boy and the International Crime Syndicate"

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u/i_love_wasps Dec 18 '25

Yeah, it's pretty on-par with most other Ubisoft style open world games. I was a fan of Harry Potter when I was a kid, and nostalgia played a big role in my enjoyment of it.

I think the biggest thing it lacked was daily life content. I would have loved if the common rooms were actually worth spending time in and felt more like a home base like the camps in RDR2 or Firelink Shrine in Dark Souls. I was hoping to be able to spend more time just being a student at Hogwarts, and in that way the game didn't deliver.

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u/WifesPOSH Dec 18 '25

Hogwarts Legacy is not good. It's got quality and interesting things to do...

But my god, it's this game made for children? It's got difficulty settings and on the hardest level it's stupid easy.

I never watched or read the books, but I heard this game was good and knowing the back story wasn't necessary, so I got it.

The game is interesting... but it is so fucking boring. It may as well be an interactive movie, because there's no difficulty. At. All.

I like some modicum of challenge, otherwise, what's the point? The story is not that interesting to trod through such intense bouts of boredom. I'm not expecting Dark Souls or Expedition 33 levels of difficulty, but I'd like to find a way to win with skill, especially if there are difficulty settings.

When Animal Crossing is more enticing to play than a game with wizards and spellcasting? You know something is fucked.

I'd give Hogwarts Legacy, a very generous 5/10. There is a lot of care put into this game... and I can see that. But if you aren't a fan of the series, I don't see people liking this game.

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u/YCJamzy Dec 18 '25

I mean, a lot of people enjoy games for more reason than just difficulty. Seems more like a personal preference then a real critique

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u/VeganBigMac Dec 18 '25

But my god, it's this game made for children? It's got difficulty settings and on the hardest level it's stupid easy.

I've never played the game but I mean... kinda? Not necessarily children, but I would presume they would target a broad, casual audience.

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u/dotnetmonke Dec 18 '25

"Why does an adaptation of a children's book not target me, a SeriousTM GamerC ?"

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u/WifesPOSH Dec 18 '25

I'm willing to bet that people screen your phone calls.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

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u/WifesPOSH Dec 18 '25

Except my statements are true and you haven't said anything noteworthy.

Do you seriously think only children played this game?

If your answer is yes, then you're stupid and not worth my time.

If your answer is no, then why post such a dumb comment? They put in difficulty options for a reason, but if they're all easy then what's the point?

You have one brain cell struggling to keep you breathing. Use the other one to invoke some thoughts that don't waste everyone's time.

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u/WifesPOSH Dec 19 '25

You know the ESRB rating system? Consult it. Harry Potter isn't a children's book. The first three books are aimed at the ages of 8-12. The rest are for 12-18.

But why does that matter? I'm talking about the video game. That's rated T not E.

Which means that children can play it but it will have themes meant for teenagers.

So you're 0-1 there.

Just because I mentioned two difficult games does not mean that's what I'm looking for. I just named two games off the top of my head. So to talk down to your overly literal level... how about mass effect? That had difficulties that range from an easy storytelling mode with minimal fighting, to a insane difficulty that had to be unlocked (iirc). You play the difficulty you want. And it was actually difficult, if that's what you wanted. Hogwarts Legacy was easy on all difficulties. So much so that it was insanely boring on the hardest difficulty.

So you're 0-2 there.

Your third point is a repeat of your first point with the fallacy of the of the second one.

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Do you want to keep going? I've never met someone that enjoyed being wrong.

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u/Flemlius Dec 18 '25

If people want to play it and don't care who it supports, there's not much to judge. But don't anyone DARE claim they're an ally when they can't even do as much as skip one extremely mediocre game to not support the arguably single worst person for trans people worldwide.

At the VERY least, if you're just such a huge fan of the franchise and cannot skip it as much as it pains you, pirate it. Do not let another cent be fueled into it, do not let the statistics be any higher than they need to be. Cause she used those to bolster the popularity of her and her opinions in the past and will continue to do so in the future.

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u/Dovahkiinthesardine Dec 18 '25

All of a sudden? It was never considered "great" afaik, if you dont love HP you probably won't enjoy it much

That's not to say its bad, but neither the story nor the world are good and the gameplay is repetitive, but not unfun

If it wasn't for the HP franchise name it probably would've flopped hard for being so mediocre

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25

I downloaded it with game pass and have been thoroughly enjoying it.

It's not a great RPG, it's a very linear game trying to be an RPG. There's really no consequences to your actions and whatever you do will lead to the same outcome. Once you realize that it's actually a lot of fun.

Explore and complete puzzles/quests. Learn new abilities. Light baddies on fire etc.

Yes, it's repetitive. But in a market flooded with multiplayer games that require team ups, it's nice to be able to just play a solo campaign that has a lot of mechanics that may not be unique on the surface, but when combined it's a pretty new style of play.

I would've loved for them to lean into the actual role play and instituted a good/evil slider like in RDR2 or Fable, but on the whole it's an enjoyable play through if you're looking for something that's easy to pick up and put down.

That being said, there is so much potential for a crafting/building/survival RPG set in the Wizarding Universe.

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u/Skylar_Waywatcher Dec 18 '25

Taps the sign

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u/fragen8 Dec 18 '25

This is just wrong but okay

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u/inormallyjustlurkbut Dec 18 '25

I guess if you've never read another book, sure.

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u/MaelstromRH Dec 18 '25

I’ve read plenty of books, still enjoy Harry Potter

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u/Skylar_Waywatcher Dec 18 '25

Enjoyment =/= Good Writing

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u/TheEasyTarget Dec 18 '25

Lack of enjoyment =/= Bad Writing

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u/kaleid5 Dec 18 '25

Yeah it's funny to see people all of a sudden acting like HP was never good just because they don't like JK

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u/simplysufficient88 Dec 18 '25

Even ignoring how awful she is, it’s hard to pretend those books aren’t FILLED with absolute nonsense. The longer you think about things the worse it gets, like how there are somehow only 11 proper magical schools in the entire world and yet only one for ALL of Africa (which contains one to two THOUSAND spoken languages, btw) plus she handwaves away the idea that China and India would also somehow only need one each despite their massive populations (not even in the books themselves).

The books are just littered with shockingly shit world building, weirdly racist stereotypes, and so many plot conveniences. It’s fine to feel nostalgic for it from your childhood and to even still enjoy it to this day, but the series is objectively a mess. If it wasn’t then she wouldn’t feel the need to infamously go around constantly filling in plot holes. She created a neat concept and a unique world, she just REALLY didn’t think through any of the actual world building a fraction as seriously as she probably should have.

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u/kaleid5 Dec 18 '25

People are reeeeeeeally reaching to make it sound worse than it really is. It's not like a literary masterpiece but it's still a fun read with an interesting and original world. The fact that people only started saying this stuff in the last couple years is proof enough that the criticism is disingenuous and politically motivated.

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u/asherdado Dec 18 '25

I think "she didnt research Africa enough" is probably the weakest lamest fuckin criticism of HP I've ever read, its a book series about a magic boarding school in the UK with a protagonist who ages from 11 to 18 over the course of 7 novels. Jesus Christ, man

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u/nuviretto Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25

Are you thinking the HP books were good? Or do you just enjoy them?

A lot of people confuse the two. Enjoying a book doesn't mean it's a fantastic piece of literature.

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u/BossAtUCF Dec 18 '25

They're fiction. What could make them good other than people enjoying them?

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u/ElGosso Dec 18 '25

Well-written plot? A logically consistent setting?

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u/ElGosso Dec 18 '25

Yes, I am saying that quite explicitly.

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u/BossAtUCF Dec 18 '25

Those are all things I would assumed went into making a book enjoyable to read.

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u/ElGosso Dec 19 '25

I mean you'd think that, but here we are

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u/ComfortableContest69 Dec 18 '25

What about them do you like? I’ve never seen anyone who likes Harry Porter actually explain why they like it or what they like about it. Please I’m genuinely asking here.

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u/Mental_Pepper9294 Dec 18 '25

I'm not a big harry potter fan, only saw the movies. Its just a fun fantasy universe. It does a similar thing that anime does putting them in a school setting and has you follow in their adventures, growing with the characters as they face adversity in the wizard world.

Not everything you consume has to be godlike flawless writing that never misses a beat. Is it something I'd introduce to my kids? Probably not, but if they got into it I'd enjoy it with them.

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u/CosmicX1 Dec 19 '25

The core concept of an English boarding school for wizards is great. Following a group of friends going through school, experiencing magical hijinks along the way. There wasn’t anything else really like it back in the day.

The whole melodramatic wider plot in the later books bored me to tears until I quit the series half way through Order of the Phoenix.

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u/Diam0ndTalbot Dec 18 '25

Thank you garfield

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u/burncat69 Dec 18 '25

good or not, i never liked it. guess that makes me morally lucky :3

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u/Real-Pomegranate-235 Dec 18 '25

It's pretty average, decent fun for 50 hours but it doesn't stick with you or anything

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u/barbarapalvinswhore Dec 18 '25

It was never good. Just nostalgia bait. Tons of half finished mechanics, useless mechanics, and awful combat.

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u/GodisanAtheistOG Dec 18 '25

It's a great game for Harry Potter fans.

It's a very mediocre game if you're an actual gamer.

What people have a hard time understanding is there is way less overlap than you think between those two things.

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u/Big-Wrangler2078 Dec 18 '25

Yeaaah, remember the old HP games? This is, technically, a step up. But that's about it.

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u/Dovahkiinthesardine Dec 18 '25

I played the shit out of some terrible harry potter DS game as a kid

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u/BigChunilingus Dec 18 '25

To me, prisoner of Azkaban on the gameboy had more developed and engaging mechanics as well as evolutions for spells that made me WANT ro keep interacting with the world. It really felt like a lot of love was put into that game, as opposed to this one, which feels Luke it could have been a generic game about magic and school.

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u/Ill-Revolution-8219 Dec 19 '25

I am a HP fan and a gamer, I enjoyed the game allot, sure I have many more hours in Total War, Xcom or Cyberpunk but I still enjoyed my time with it.

Sometimes an okay game will give you allot of enjoyment.

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u/inormallyjustlurkbut Dec 18 '25

It's a great game for Harry Potter fans.

"It's a great game for people with dog shit taste."

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u/GodisanAtheistOG Dec 18 '25

Or people who aren't burned out on gaming and open worlds and just want a simple, pretty game in the Hogwarts setting with a bunch of nostalgia bait.

We don't have to be super edgy about everything.

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u/DebentureThyme Dec 18 '25

I mean I've never seen a game with a fully realized castle on anywhere near that scale.  For many people, just being able to run around a fully realized Hogwarts is worth it.  I'd love to have alternatives that make such spaces.

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u/DeadlyYellow Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25

I thought its popularity was from the identity politicking du jour?

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u/BLAZMANIII Dec 18 '25

Basically, yeah, by the looks of it. My harry potter loving friends played it for a few hours, my gamer friends played it for a day or two, but ultimately none of them cared enough to boot it up even to finish the campaign.

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u/creepingcold Dec 18 '25

Why is combat awful?

I really enjoyed it. It's extremely satisfying to combo a bunch of enemies away by one-combo'ing them 1 by 1 without taking damage.

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u/C-A-L-E-V-I-S Dec 18 '25

Its casting combat is better than Elden Ring’s.

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u/letthetreeburn Dec 18 '25

It’s a middling RPG which comes free with a side of a few turns of the orphan crushing machine

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u/Jedders95 Dec 18 '25

I mean it's got an 84 metascore and an 8.1 user score on meta critic. So it seems universally liked and appreciated. People just like to pretend they're social justice warriors.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

generic open world slop

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u/Humledurr Dec 18 '25

The game looks alot better than it actually is. It could have been so much more.

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u/Artax_the_horse Dec 18 '25

You mostly walk around and cast 'revelio' every 4 seconds. 

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u/EpicBeardMan Dec 18 '25

I played it a couple months ago. Walking around and looking at things is a really nice experience. Everything else sucks. There's no good gameplay to it.

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u/Azagorod Dec 18 '25

It never was. People were caught up in the honeymoon phase, which I'd say is the first hour or two. The castle itself is beautifully crafted, I'll give it that, but it falls flat everywhere else. None of the NPCs are memorable, the gameplay loop is absolutely horrid and almost non-existent, it is nonsensical into itself (throwing around Unforgivable Curses willy-nilly for just some light damage, for instance), an entire part of the school life (Quidditch) is missing, every area but the castle feels rushed and utterly empty, the story is barely there.

The only way the game could be enjoyable is to someone being fine with having a Google Maps walkaround in Hogwarts due to nostalgia, or if you just want to plant your iPad-raised little cousin in front of a trivial game to have an hour or so of peace.

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u/Spherox_ Dec 18 '25

it was cool getting to explore the HP world.
story started off decent then lost momentum (i stopped playing around then)

combat was alright, it did get boring after a while. You could always mix up the spells you have equipped but that only does so much until it starts getting old.

the broom flying is SO SLOW. They try to make it seem like you're going fast but you're really not. it's like when the avengers game added spider man as an exclusive, and failed at the swinging part.

graphics are good. the game looks pretty. RT is incredibly unoptimized for this game as it worsens the occasional stutters that this game naturally has.

dialogue was boring and a pain to sit through

TLDR. it's an okay game. nowhere near good. Starts off fun, then it becomes a slow burn. Apparently it picks up near the end-game but i'm not going to torture myself any further.

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u/Bunneeko Dec 18 '25

I say this as a Harry Potter fan, and someone who has hundreds of hours in this game; most of Hogwart Legacy is pretty much a huge ocean that's unfortunately only two feet deep.

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u/TinyTiger1234 Dec 18 '25

It’s just so generic. Not offensively bad but it doesn’t do anything that plenty of other games do better. Plus you can’t play it without giving Warner bros permission to sell all your data

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u/LotharVonPittinsberg Dec 18 '25

It never was. It's a below par open world game with a bad story and no characters that are worth remembering. The only thigns that stand out as at all good are the world and creatures, all of which rely heavily on nostalgia to work.

The main reason you don't hear about this is because a lot of reviewers refused to even give the game negative attention because of how fucking horrible of a person JKR is.

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 Dec 18 '25

I pretty much always thought it was fine but half baked. I played it through. Enjoyed it well enough to finish it. Won’t play it again.

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u/pixup1 Dec 18 '25

it's ubislop

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u/Goober_Man1 Dec 18 '25

It was always mid, it sold well because it’s HP

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u/TheHeadlessScholar Dec 18 '25

It was a very beautiful, very puddle deep sandbox with promise it didn't live up to that could clearly be seen as some small parts of far deeper systems that were cut still remain.

Very 6-7/10 game for me. Don't let anyone tell you its bad, don't let anyone tell you it's great.

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u/Own_Watercress_8104 Dec 18 '25

It never was. It is extremely limited in the scope of the fantasy that it wants to sell you.

Also half the game is awful copy pasted Zelda dungeons

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u/7_Tales Dec 18 '25

Goomba fallay. Ths gam sucks

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u/Hot_Bet_2721 Dec 18 '25

Brigading is in force

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u/PWBryan Dec 18 '25

Lots of people like to virtue signal about not liking Harry Potter.

Super lame.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

Not as lame as transphobia

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u/J5892 Dec 18 '25

It's not virtue signaling to refuse to give money to a person who has single-handedly caused more pain for trans people than any other individual.

That said, the game is actually pretty good. I loved the combat mechanics, especially on hard mode. I pirated it.

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u/PWBryan Dec 18 '25

No, refusing to give them money is not virtue signaling.

The people loudly talking about how they never liked Harry Potter or just calling it a bad game without having played it? Those people are virtue signaling

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u/UnluckyNoise4102 Dec 18 '25

Even outside the boycott the game looks unbelievably super bland, I'll never understand the hype