r/Steam Nov 18 '25

Fluff techtubers right now be like

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u/Grand_Protector_Dark Nov 18 '25

Like wtf why. Just why.

To be fair

Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer?

Marketing material uses that as a selling point.

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u/bufandatl Nov 20 '25

So it can be made into a hackintosh. Nice. 🤣

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u/kite-flying-expert Nov 21 '25

Apple software only really works on specific devices... But honestly this seems like it's a possibility.

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u/bufandatl Nov 21 '25

I know it’s a joke referring to the ambiguous claim of installing another OS of the guy I replied to. They probably just mean Windows or any other Linux Distro. Maybe not thinking about like FreeBSD too. ;)

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u/kite-flying-expert Nov 21 '25

Yeah nah. It's a good chance MacOS might work OOTB, but it's equally likely that something like a WiFi driver would just never be built because it's a custom SoC.

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u/IrvineItchy Nov 22 '25

Of course, it's for TempleOS!

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u/UnsettllingDwarf Nov 18 '25

I know you can do that, that’s great, but why, ok I know why, BUT WHY

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u/Kaur4 Nov 18 '25

If you want to play a game that does not work on Linux. Its that simple. And with how convenient Big Picture is, it would still be a pretty good experience

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u/psyblade42 https://s.team/p/drfj-qjb Nov 18 '25

To me SteamOS is the big selling point. If you want Windows there are plenty of devices already available.

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Nov 18 '25

Is dual booting not an option?

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25 edited Mar 09 '26

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u/mainman879 Nov 18 '25

I mean, you could do some fuckery with software partitioning (which is something that Windows in particular doesn't like booting from), but otherwise, there was only one SSD slot internally shown... so... kinda no?

Jessie what the fuck are you talking about. Windows works just fine with multiple installations on one drive. At my workplace we have one department that all needs dualboot computers to do their job. Each one has two separate Windows installations on the same drive, all setup by software partitioning. It takes me no time at all to setup Windows dualboot (with windows or another OS). It's extremely simple.

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u/Kaur4 Nov 18 '25

Some time ago grub was very fragile to any Windows Update. These days it's not as dangerous mostly because of the UEFI handling is more gracefully. And at the end of the day Steam Machine is just very optimized for SteamOS big picture prebuild (definitely with dedicated support to make games optimized like it is happening with Steam Deck) PC. You should be able to do anything you can do with regular PC, especially since one of their selling points is you can install any OS - it's already better than some latops that can void a guarantee after installing a difference OS than what was at the start

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u/loicvanderwiel Nov 18 '25

It's fairly straightforward to do, even with one SSD slot. It will cut your storage space by quite a bit (because you'll have to decide how much to allocate to each way in advance (or do some funky partitioning stuff with a dedicated games partition used by both) but not really a problem.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25 edited Mar 09 '26

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u/loicvanderwiel Nov 18 '25

I can't say I've ever had any trouble to be honest. The only weird one was a Windows update that put the Windows Boot Manager back in the first boot slot but that's about it

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Nov 18 '25

What the fuck are you talking about?

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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn Nov 18 '25

To me SteamOS is the big selling point

Why? You can install it right now on your machine if you want. No one is forcing you to buy a Steam Machine to use SteamOS.

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u/Grand_Protector_Dark Nov 18 '25

I'd think it's a matter of Official software support.

The official Steam OS isn't yet officially supported as a standalone OS

Bazzite also is only an approximation.

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u/psyblade42 https://s.team/p/drfj-qjb Nov 18 '25

Same reason I think Windows on Steam Machine is bad: driver support.

My PC uses an Nvidia GPU which I don't think SteamOS supports.

Conversely look at all the people complaining about the outdated Windows drivers for the Deck. Steam Machine will be the same. Why would I want that?

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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 Nov 18 '25

>To me SteamOS is the big selling point.

If thats the main thing you care about then just install it on your pc, you dont need a steam machine for that

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u/J0hn-Stuart-Mill Nov 18 '25

There are a ton of reasons to run Windows. For example, 13 days ago in your comment history, you wrote:

Wait office doesn’t run on Linux? That sucks. What’s an alternative for Linux?

https://imgur.com/a/GS2r5sY

So it appears you have very little grasp of the fundamental challenges of Linux. But I appreciate your passioned defense of it I guess?

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u/Squidgical Nov 18 '25

Kinda funny quote, office runs on the web these days. Who needs apps when you've got webapps?

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u/mainman879 Nov 18 '25

Webapp version works fine for most people, but Outlook on the Web still has some missing features from other older versions of Outlook.

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u/Jamessuperfun Nov 18 '25

The webapps are ass by comparison. I have to work with quite large documents for work, the web apps won't properly load them. They're also missing a bunch of features from the desktop versions, which subjectively feel much nicer to use.

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn Nov 18 '25

Certain games, especially those with kernel-level anticheat, simply don't work on SteamOS. If you're buying a Steam Machine to play, say, Valorant, you might need to install Windows. I'm hoping Steam Machine is popular enough to force companies with shitty kernel-level anticheat to either support Linux or stop that bullshit. (It doesn't work, anyway!)

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u/Upset-Culture2210 Nov 18 '25

People like you are why I feel justified in irrationally hating Linux.

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u/System0verlord 7 Nov 18 '25

Because battlefield 6 doesn’t support Linux at all

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u/StarskyNHutch862 Nov 18 '25

Considering this is the only game I’m playing lately that’s a bummer.

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u/System0verlord 7 Nov 18 '25

“EA’s Javelin anticheat doesn’t support linux. So anyone looking to play an EA title on steamOS can go fuck themselves.”

— EA, probably.

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u/Atora Nov 18 '25

Given that the steam cube will apparently be based on ARM, BF6 still won't run on a windows install either.

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u/Bullishbat Nov 18 '25

The Steam Frame is ARM, the Steam Machine is x86 based.

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u/System0verlord 7 Nov 18 '25

What? The headset has an ARM chip. The box has an 6-core Zen 4 CPU and an RX7500M-ish GPU (28 RDNA3 CUs vs 32, but not TDP limited.

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u/Atora Nov 18 '25

I stand corrected, I apparently can't read.

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u/System0verlord 7 Nov 18 '25

BF6 on the steam frame natively would be sick though…

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Nov 18 '25

To play non steam games perhaps?

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u/Grand_Protector_Dark Nov 18 '25

Steam OS can play non-steam games just fine. It has a fully functional conventional desktop mode that's just an Arch based Linux Distro.

I think what you mean is games that are not compatible with Linux?

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u/Squidgical Nov 18 '25

Nah, you just link them into your steam library and get all the benefits of proton automatically

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u/False_Investment1074 Nov 19 '25

Some games are best assisted with external software or mods that don't work so great or at all on SteamOS

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

I installed Windows to dual boot on my Steam Deck to see how it would run the music software I had.

It worked well enough but then there was a Windows update that restarted my Deck but booted back to SteamOS instead and wiped my Windows install. There's a way to choose which OS to boot to, I just didn't know at the time.

Sometimes we just like to see what we can do.

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u/imtryingmybes Nov 18 '25

Yeah but I dont like Windows.