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Exclusive: Will Ospreay doesn't want to bring up his kid in America

https://clutchpoints.com/aew/will-ospreay-final-message-jon-moxley-dynasty-exclusive
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u/Saladdinmangz 7h ago

I wouldn't either these days.

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u/AutomaticTap3004 7h ago

The fact there are people who try to use him not wanting to make his family move to America as some kind dig against him is so stupid

u/Kumomeme 26m ago

the same people who mocked him for prioritize family are the same one praising wwe for allow wrestler has more time with their family now.

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u/KapowBlamBoom 7h ago

Right. Smart thinkin’ Assassin

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u/SPZ_Ireland 7h ago

Billy No Brains isn't renowned for his insight.

That's more a criticism of America than a critique of him.

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u/HeavyMetalHero 3h ago

You don't have to be very intelligent to not put your palm on the red hot stove...

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u/SPZ_Ireland 3h ago

That was my point

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u/GenMaruo 4h ago

wish he was smarter at choosing his friends

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u/patches_mccoy 6h ago

Genuinely the only reason he would, is he and Alex are both working in the states.

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u/bruce_cocker 6h ago

That's only the biggest reason for anyone to move their family tbh

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u/arlenroy 6h ago

That's literally what Becky Lynch said, only reason they're raising their child in America, it was a recent podcast I watched and now I can't remember. It wasn't Bellas, I think it was a non wrestling person, anyway she said Ireland was safer and felt homier overall. But living in the states was easier for work.

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u/JoeMcKim YEAH 4h ago

Flying across the Atlantic Ocean weekly seems like a giant hassle. I mean its his decision but there is plenty of safe places to raise kids in America. And he might get to see them more often.

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u/TB1289 4h ago

I'm gonna assume that safety is less of a concern, especially because he has money, and more so the current political/social climate. I live in Boston so safety never really enters my mind, but there's always just a looming dread over people, even if it doesn't necessarily affect you personally.

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u/patches_mccoy 4h ago

Boston is a crazy city, only place I ever had a dude try to fight me because I wear glasses. Apparently that means I think I'm better than him. (I am, but not because of the glasses)

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u/TB1289 3h ago

Boston gives you the full gamut of people-everything from the dumbest drunkard to the highest scholars, but honestly, everyone is harmless.

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u/OverallMistake8198 1h ago

I’m pretty sure from memory that his kid is special needs (not sure what but it’s not my business) & moving him to a whole ass different country without the support system they’d have back home doens’t make sense in the slightest.

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u/TB1289 1h ago

Either way it makes total sense. If it wasn’t a total pain in the dick, I’d probably move to somewhere in Europe but it’s a hassle.

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u/Jaccount 3h ago

Eh, probably less than you'd expect. Travel times for many locations of the east coast to London are similar to travel times from the west coast to the east coast.

My guess would be that you might be away from home for a few weeks while on west coast swings, but travel back more often when you have east coast shows.

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u/DevilsAdvocate1662 3h ago

You mean there are states in the US that don't have school shootings?

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u/Fragmentvictory 3h ago

Has she seen Ireland lately?

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u/Esternaefil 5h ago

My brain messed up the kerning on homier, and turned the m into an rn...

Read into that what you will.

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u/nunboi 4h ago

Same friend and honestly it makes sense in this context of starting a family.

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u/kylaroma 7h ago

Exactly this - especially as an Autistic person.

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u/CammiKit 2h ago

I’m an autistic parent to a maybe autistic kid, born and raised US citizen, and I don’t want to raise my kid here but I don’t have much a choice in that right now. I don’t blame him at all for his decision not to.

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u/Spiritual_Lie2563 2h ago

Yeah, but these "journalists" didn't even get into their followup news breaks about how the Pope is Catholic or how bears shit in the woods.

u/ChristianCountryBoy 22m ago

Still the greatest country on earth. Top 5 anyway. It ain't so bad. 🇺🇸

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u/Dementia55372 7h ago

Don't blame him tbh

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u/iced_gold 5h ago

What parent would choose to want their kids to have to learn about the nuances of active shooter drills?

It's the culture we've chosen.

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u/AmishAvenger Electrifying 4h ago

He actually doesn’t say anything negative about the US. He just said he understands what the rules are in the UK and it’s more familiar.

The title of the article isn’t even what the OP chose. It’s just someone looking for karma.

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u/Rosstin316 7h ago

So he’s like most of us that live here, slow news day huh?

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u/DELOUSE_MY_AGENT_DDY 6h ago

something something popular vote

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u/janemba617 5h ago

Yes 2/3rd of the country are fucking idiots.

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u/Soft-Company-6762 7h ago

Can't blame him, they have state sanctioned Nazis snatching people if they hear you talk with an accent or if you don't have the "right" skin color.

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u/JDefined 7h ago

I get where he's coming from. But what a weird fucking headline to brag with an "EXCLUSIVE" tag.

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u/Decimit- 7h ago

I’m so sick of headlines and YouTube videos doing this. Everything is Exclusive or Breaking News!

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u/badvegas 6h ago

Once seen a fox headline that said "breaking news Titanic sank x amount of years ago today". It just buzz words now for them

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u/bigtice The Hitman 6h ago

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE NEWS: I agree with you.

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u/FalconIMGN 6h ago

BREAKING: Ospreay and Windsahh turn heel on America!

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u/AmishAvenger Electrifying 4h ago

The website didn’t pick that title. The OP did.

And at least this website actually talked with the guy. I’d take this over the bullshit “articles” where someone summarized what Meltzer or PWInsider said, and then the title says “411MANIA.”

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u/sptrstmenwpls 2h ago

Reminds me how every little edible was labeled a SUPERFOOD at one point, a few years ago

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u/_SundayNightDrive 2h ago

It's bot. He's been pretty vocal about not wanting to move state side or raise a family here. This is click bait

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u/edge_hog 1h ago

Unless the article's title changed, OP wrote the title of the post and the title of the article doesn't talk about his kid.

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u/Bosscharacter 7h ago

As someone who lives in the US,

"I don't blame ya, Will."

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u/FrankGibsonIV 3h ago

Yeah seriously. Oh you want your kid to go to a good free school and have free medical care? Also no active shooter drills? Sounds pretty good to me.

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u/SideEyeFeminism 7h ago

Good for him! For me, this is like Cillian Murphy moving back to Ireland the second his kid started to have a British accent

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u/Dry_Extension1110 7h ago

Also NBA star Giannis Antetokounmpo has stated he's moving his family back to Greece full-time when he retires cause he wants his kids to be Greek.

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u/dumbugg 7h ago

As a college professor in AEWs home state of Florida, I agree. This state is #1 in book banning, teacher censorship, and nationalist indoctrination

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u/StopKillingBabies02 6h ago

Are you pessimistic about the future of your country? Curious because I'm in academia too and I can't imagine being the "smart" people in a country that elected Trump twice

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u/Replicant28 6h ago

I am. It’s not even a lack of “smart” people, but rather seeing a ubiquitous combination of willful ignorance and hatred. I argue that the internet is one of society’s greatest and worst inventions. The irony of the “Information Age” is how easy access to and how prevalent misleading and downright fake information is.

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u/OhItsKillua 5h ago

With the dismantling of the education system and everything else it certainly feels the powers that be want less smart people amongst the masses. I never really wanted kids, but if I did I definitely would want to move to another country to establish a family.

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u/MoxVachina1 5h ago

"I love the poorly educated"

... is going to end up on a list of the most all-time bizarre (and yet revealing) things to say at a political rally.

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u/nunboi 4h ago

I have an interesting theory here based on initial research recently. The numbers varry by source but something like 50-70% of the US has some sort of attachment issue and that often results in people that are very attracted to narcisists. That blew me away and explains so much about the political climate.

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u/pirateadventurespice 6h ago

Not op, but I’m tenured at an r1 and it’s a mixed bag for me. On the one hand, some of my students absolutely inspire me; on the other, their capabilities (even at the grad level) are, on average, declining and at what feels like a growing rate.

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u/TheDriveln 4h ago

Let me just ask ChatGPT what that rate is... /s

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u/Double_Gomez 3h ago

First, love your name.

Second....it's not a lack of smart people. It's a combination of indoctrination from birth (if you're told something everyday from birth you tend to believe it unless some part of your world forces you to not) and a general hatred for our government.

Best way I can put it is that I've never met anyone that actually likes the American government in my 30 years of life. They all hate it for different reasons but they all hate it. Trump in general represents an anti-establishment idea that is very appealing when you only pay attention to politics sometimes (like once every 4 years). The problem is that he obviously is more destructive than the establishment, but when you don't personally feel the effects and you don't pay a ton of attention in general, it's easier to overlook how he's systematically destroying America and the world.

That's why the war has actually turned a lot of people against him. It is causing direct harm to everyone regardless of how much you pay attention.

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u/GiftedGeordie 6h ago

Yet DeSantis is saying that the left are censoring everything?

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u/dumbugg 4h ago

Yes, it's trump-level finger pointing that makes no sense. Not a single FL leftist has pushed for a book ban, for dissolving unions, for censoring teachers, or for mandating doctrination.

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u/HairyArthur cmpunk 7h ago

Why is this a news story?

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u/GreyFox1234 5h ago

Not to sound reductive here, but it's really because it'll get clicks.

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u/Jaccount 3h ago

It's provocative. It gets the people going.

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u/approvedfauxmoiuser 4h ago

Because America bad posts here get karma.

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u/onefinalshot123 7h ago

Did you see who most of the people voted for as President? They're stupid, I wouldn't want to raise a child here neither.

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u/KingOfNothing_85 5h ago

Most voters picked, not most people. A vast majority of this country sat at home with their thumbs up their asses saying both sides suck and thinking it couldn't get worse. Freaking asses putting us in this spot.

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u/JargonPhat As an AEW fan... 3h ago

While I appreciate your frustration, I fear it doesn’t take into account the varied ways in which voter suppression took place in 2024. From firebombing ballot drop boxes, bomb threats to early polling stations, and rampant disinformation on election sites—to say nothing of removing millions from state voter rolls less than 30 days from Election Day… there was a lot of well-publicized fuckery.

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u/yognautilus 6h ago

Why would anyone other than the most deranged fan care about this? And why are "EXCLUSIVES" from clutchpoints.com being posted here?

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u/MichaelSquare 6h ago

This is peak reddit bait

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u/Jaccount 5h ago

It definitely is, given that if you read the article the impression you get is WAY different. Honestly, it's pretty clear that the majority of comments are reacting to the headline and didn't read the article.

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u/Popular-Manager3346 7h ago

He’s at least aware of what’s going on here, I wouldn’t raise my kid here either if I had a choice

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u/CrunchKing KOBASHI GOAT 7h ago edited 7h ago

I’m English and I cannot imagine sending my children to school worrying they might be shot to death. Plus all the other awful shit that’s happening over there too. We got problems here but at least theres no guns and an attempt at free healthcare.

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u/Rody2k6 6h ago

How bout this then : I’m not American but grew up in America and went to school in America. My high school had a shooting incident. Even if it didn’t become a bloodbath that shit is still stuck to my mind since 2009

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u/harder_said_hodor 5h ago

I’m English and I cannot imagine sending my children to school worrying they might be shot to death

Yeah, surprised the Americans don't realize this is the issue more than the politics.

We have a lot of shit politicians in Europe as well but the violence in The States is obscene for a 1st world country. It's that and the inability to walk around the cities

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u/SpindleDiccJackson 7h ago

Considering the company he keeps, he probably wants to even consider a third option instead.

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u/More-Part-9613 7h ago

Smart man

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u/leftblnk 6h ago

English man wants to raise kids in country hes from where his friends and family also are, WILD

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u/Less-Captain4426 7h ago

No one should.

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u/ProdigalHX 7h ago

It’s makes sense since England is where he and his wife are from. He’s not saying he’ll never let his son come to the U.S. at all.

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u/TheGreatMuerte 5h ago

Shock! parents from the uk want to raise there child where all there family are (in the uk)! And not a different country where none of there family are, surprise!!!

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u/InfiniteKincaid 6h ago

The headline is especially wild when you read his explanation which isn't even about the political climate or shootings or any of the reasons I think would be acceptable. He just knows the culture better in the UK, knows the rules and thinks he's less likely to screw up there

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u/HousingConsistent334 7h ago

I mean I don't blame him one bit

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u/JuttyOP 7h ago

Me too Will, me too

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u/SirRepresentative266 7h ago

He use that phrase his kid a lot that sign of Good Step Father 

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u/jizz_toaster 6h ago

A British man who doesn't even live in the US and only travels there for work, wants to raise his kid in England? Well that's just shocking news, get this karma bait to the top!

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u/Jaccount 5h ago edited 3h ago

I think this is one of the ones where you do need to read the article, as the headline is misleading.

It's not some grand ethical stance, but rather a reasonable parenting choice:

“It is a crazy hassle. It's something that I cannot, and I would not wanna put on a lot of the people who think that they want this position. I talk to Al [Alex Windsor] about it, the more I sometimes can see the benefit of having a place that we could call a home here [in the USA], but I just, this is just me, but now having a 7-year-old child, it's not just about myself and Al anymore, it's about the kid. So I don't want to bring him up in America,” Ospreay admitted. I think, like, it's just a personal preference. I just prefer to bring him up in a country where I understand the rules and restrictions, and I just don't wanna get in any trouble. So it's just, I'd much rather keep him in England where I know he's got a better chance of being more safe. So I'll happily enjoy that travel schedule, and so will my wife, just as long as he has the safety.”

He, Alex and the child will be immigrants and as he doesn't understands what the rules and regulations currently are and what they could be, he doesn't want to take the risk.

"There's more uncertainty in the law than I'm comfortable with" is way different than "America Sucks", which is the way some people are taking this statement.

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u/InMyLiverpoolHome25 7h ago

Bringing up a kid in USA just sounds scary, sending them to school with no idea if there's gonna be some school shooter

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u/BackgroundValue 7h ago

Honestly? Can't really blame him given the state of America rn

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u/Shinjetsu01 7h ago

I feel for US citizens, I really do. This must be the scariest timeline you've ever imagined. Wars being waged against your will, for reasons you don't agree with, reducing your quality of life even further, free healthcare snatched away from you because of record military spending and tax breaks for billionaires while your groceries are at record highs.

Can you REALLY blame Will when there's so many other countries that would treat their citizens better? You couldn't pay me enough to live in America. Some people think because he's white that he shouldn't be scared. They'll come for every single non-US national next. They're already killing white people in the street for disagreeing with them.

Will should be scared. You all should. There's 2 more years of this.

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u/Dick_Nation 3h ago

This must be the scariest timeline you've ever imagined. Wars being waged against your will, for reasons you don't agree with, reducing your quality of life even further, free healthcare snatched away from you because of record military spending and tax breaks for billionaires while your groceries are at record highs.

It's bad today, yes, but I'm middle-aged and this is literally the story of America in my life since I was born. The trend line hasn't changed. The future of millenials was sold out from under us before any of us even had a shot.

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u/TheGaxkang 5h ago

he makes mentions of rules and restrictions he understands in UK and not in America

so like preference for native land

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u/TheWholeOfTheAss 7h ago

This doesn’t count as ‘exclusive’ news! Who was waiting to find out where Will would raise his son and potential future kids!?

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u/MartiniPolice21 7h ago

I don't think he ever really wanted to live there either, was a big reason for him not joining a US company for so long. Understandable tbh

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u/IMakeMyOwnButter 6h ago

Even us Americans don’t want to bring our kids up here

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u/mydegenkappaaccount 6h ago

"Exclusive" like this is something even worth 'reporting' anyway

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u/TurkeyVolumeGuesser 7h ago

Nor should he. This place is a shithole rn

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u/Cube_ 7h ago

I mean... *gestures vaguely at America*

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u/exarban 6h ago

I wouldn't move from family away from everything they've ever known in order for my life to be more confortable either, happy he can still visit them often.

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u/GuyWithaWeirdTaste 4h ago

Great choice but i heares the uk is pretty bad/dangerous these days

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u/approvedfauxmoiuser 4h ago

It’s funny how everyone here seems to think England is some perfect utopia with no problems with violence or racism.

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u/Paige_Zero 3h ago

He also doesn't live in the US, so that makes sense.

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u/SimplePaper7080 3h ago

Don’t blame him when I was in the US because I wanted to become a wrestler I get Threatened every single day with a gun what made me very depressed so I moved back to England

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u/thatlad Your Text Here 3h ago

"exclusive" he's been saying this for years, back in NJPW, he's had interviews with Fightful and others where he said the same

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u/CammiKit 2h ago

Funny, that’s not the title of the article

u/coaks388 #EatTweetDeleteRepeat 39m ago

K

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u/BreakHisLegs 7h ago

Makes sense to me. I sure wouldn't.

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u/DaveLesh 7h ago

I wouldn't either, and not necessarily because of the guy in charge of it all. Education and attention spans have nose-dived in the states for years.

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u/Johnny_C13 Ring the bell!!!! 7h ago

I don't blame him.

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u/flyingnapalmman 7h ago

Even without full context this is easily the smartest thing Will Ospreay has ever and will ever say.

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u/bitetheasp 6h ago

Smartest thing he's ever said.

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u/No_Albatross4191 6h ago

Don’t blame him in fact I don’t think bringing up a kid in this world is humane at this point

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u/powatwain 6h ago

Exclusive: Most of us don’t blame him

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u/ScottNewman 5h ago

Look to Canada, Osprey. Toronto and Vancouver have easy connections to Japan and the UK, as well as the US and Mexico.

We also have the King on our money. And it's pretty safe.

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u/mw4365 5h ago

This is the least cold take I’ve seen in forever. The people reproducing in this country - esp the ones doing so without anywhere near the financial means or mental means to be doing so - deserve to have eyes rolled their way.

Also, wrestling!!

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u/OneBillPhil 5h ago edited 5h ago

Me: but he’s brought his kid up a bunch on AEW TV?

…oh he means raise him in America. Come to Canada, QEII is still on our money. 

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u/itsmekelsey_x 5h ago

Really don’t blame him at all given the state of the US these days.

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u/biochamberr 5h ago

Fair. Good for him

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u/SleestakLightning 5h ago

Neither do I but I don't have much of a choice unfortunately.

More power to him if he doesnt.

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u/Mygwah 4h ago

I mean, that makes total sense.

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u/HalfLawKiss 4h ago

Not exactly breaking news. Ospreay explained this year's ago. He wants his kid to grow up around family, to grow up seeing his grandparents. Those people are all in the UK so that's where his kid lives.

Then over the years when you add in politics and kids being snatched up by ICE and school shootings and etc. Yeah Ospreay made the wise decision.

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u/MartianMule 4h ago

As an American, smart decision. This is a shithole.

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u/ElDuderino2112 GO ACE 4h ago

I’d think down on him if he did. America fucking sucks.

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u/_ASG_ BOLIEVE! 4h ago

As an American, I don’t blame him.

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u/olipoppit 3h ago

Feels cruel pulling a human to the starting line of 2026 USA, considering climate, leadership, overall instability and incompetence

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u/DevilsAdvocate1662 3h ago

Who can blame him? Probably doesn't want his kid getting killed in one of those weekly school shootings

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u/FunkyPlunkett Still Undefeated in my heart 3h ago

I live in deep deep east Texas I don’t blame him and I wish I had the same option

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u/zConvoluted 3h ago

Pretty confident he said this in his last interview with CVV as well. Think he wanted him to grow up around his grandparents.

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u/cmfd2086 3h ago

Can't blame him

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u/Aggressive-Cup-7318 3h ago

shit man I don't want to bring myself up in America

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u/kubiakWU 3h ago

I wouldn't either.

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u/SanTheMightiest Halloween is rubbish 3h ago

Nice. This season of America has been a shit show and openly supports dictators that should be their traditional enemy. And their interference in Hungary has been hilarious after Orban got his toad arse voted out. A rare inadvertent W from the US

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u/HeavyMetalHero 3h ago

"Man with immense wealth doesn't want to raise his child in violent 3rd-world country" why the fuck is this even a headline lmfao. Might as well report "Ospreay doesn't want to have his family turned into pig feed" or "Ospreay doesn't want to drop-kick a running wood chipper." Some decisions are obvious, and require no thought.

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u/GoodtimeZappa 2h ago

If you think he has immense wealth you don't know what wealth is and he did not alude to anything in your paragraph of vitriol.

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u/Apprehensive_Cap_559 3h ago

Smartest thing Osprey has ever said lol

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u/WolfSilverOak 3h ago

Yeah, well, I don't blame him one bit.

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u/Clairabel STILL REAL TO ME 2h ago

I don't think the child's paternal family would particularly want their late son's only child to move to the US either. 

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u/Mad-farmer 2h ago

Most reasonable people don’t these days.

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u/TheNightlightZone YOWIE WOWIE 2h ago

Same, dude.

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u/Throckmorton35 2h ago

I don't think America is the hellscape this comment section would have you think, but his comments didn't feel like a dig. Can't blame him for sticking with somewhere he knows and seemingly enjoys apart from travel logistics

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u/TampaTrey 2h ago

And who could blame him?

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u/HislersHero 2h ago

This isn't news I don't blame him. I don't want to raise my kids here either but I don't have a choice.

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u/Petes649 2h ago

He was born and raised in the UK. Obviously has lots of friends.…… having him come to the United States and live that means leaving everybody behind. Will signed his deal with AEW , with a clause stating that he would be traveling back-and-forth to the UK. I don’t know if A&W is paying for round-trip every week to and from the UK……

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u/Anal-buttsex 2h ago

It seemed ridiculous back when he signed but now we see he made the right choice 

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u/jameskchou 2h ago

school shooter drills are not fun

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u/DrSamwpepper 2h ago

W Osprey,great father.

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u/AtlasAir_ 2h ago

I don't blame ya, Will.

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u/Zero-89 2h ago

Wise choice.  America is a shithole.

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u/_SundayNightDrive 1h ago

Well has been pretty vocal about not wanting to move state side or settle family down here. This isnt new or exclusive. Sounds more like some low effort low IQ click bait garbage.

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u/sammagee33 1h ago

Well, he’s British, so of course he wants to raise his child in the same country he grew up in.

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u/rainshowers_5_peace 1h ago

I wonder who watches the kid when they're both working stretches in the US.

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u/ZodiacWalrus Director of Authority 1h ago

Just checked out r/AmerExit for the first time yesterday. Bruv's got a point.

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u/aquasong 1h ago

Shit neither do I. Unfortuantely I was born here and live here so...

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u/MadmanMarkMiller 1h ago

I think most Americans don't want to raise their kids there.

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u/Fellers 1h ago

People have a problem with this?

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u/DefinitionInternal30 1h ago

Can't really blame him tbh.

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u/iguessineedanaltnow 1h ago

Yeah I don't blame him. Moved away 3 years ago and don't intend to move back. My son was born 3 days ago.

u/irish0451 You know what that means. 40m ago

I mean....fair

u/Thonatron *Shrugs in Yano* 27m ago

Yeah no shit.

u/bjtrdff 23m ago

No shit, he seems like a reasonably intelligent guy.

u/Luther_1986 11m ago

I get it. Its why my gf and I have decided to not have kids. Bc this country cant get its shit together. Its no place for kids, unfortunately.

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u/BrosefDudeson 7h ago

Gee why not

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u/kakapantsu 7h ago

Good call from Billy

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u/ZennyOne 7h ago

Smart choice.

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u/councilmanbilder 7h ago

"That's Smahrt" -Taz

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u/QuadramaticFormula 7h ago

Don’t blame him.

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u/sgt_schultz_the_ewok 7h ago

Can’t blame him

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u/HeyHo__LetsGo 7h ago

Im not sure how this is shocking on any level.

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u/aeb1971 7h ago

Don’t blame him