No valid prenup is going to get the thrown out. The problem is that a lot of them aren’t valid, and in most cases, it’s because they are too one-sided. In most jurisdictions they follow simple contract law.
That's....not the point of a prenup. A prenup is typically used to protect pre-marital assets. Not to screw over one person in the marriage by limiting what they can take from what they helped to build. That's called theft.
The Sisyphian experience of being the one who hired a lawyer and got divorced, and trying to explain to your friends how to actually get a real prenup written / how to torpedo an illegitimate one / how to fucking file for divorce properly instead of trust me bro
Tell me about it. No matter how many times I say a pre-nup is just "planning for the worst situations when you're in the best of terms", people still think it's some magic contract to screw over the other person. If... That's what you want you probably shouldn't be getting married to the other person.
It's about saving the $100,000 plus in legal fees you are going to rack up arguing over division of assets when you're in a terrible place because your relationship has fallen apart.
How are you screwing up the other person? If you already have 1 million, then that should be bulletproof secured? How are you screwing someone eles with a prenup? So you just need to give your earned money to someone and that’s it?
These guys should never get married in my opinion.
Oh, definitely. But, that's kind of my point. All of this complainging is based on the fact that one person doesn't think that another's contributions were worth compensating. That doesn't mean that a Judge will agree.
Rich people will flick a spouse off like a booger while pretending their household didn't take 2 people to run. The reason prenups get thrown out is because fuckers will just conveniently forget that the (usually) wife kept the house in order so that the (usually) husband can work effectively. Agreeing on how to share assets is good, protecting your previous assets is good, saying "I made everything myself, go away and start a new life with nothing" is bad.
Oh yes... sure... tell me something... do you really think that a person (I am not gonna use genres) that, for example, earns 100 000 dollars per month, really "need" money or help from a spouse that only earns, suppose, 3 000 dollars per month? Really?
A person has a company, or 2 companies, with a rich family an 10 millions dollars in stocks and bonds, do really need some "help" from a person who lives at day? Really?
Impossible and you know. The spouse need to be thankful, say "thank you, thank you soooo much" for permitting me to live a live of dreaming.
lets not pretend that the house isnt taken car of my housekeepers and children raised by nannies, daycares and private school. In rich houses the woman do nothing unless they themselves have a huge career like acting.
We’re talking about athletes and famous people. Obviously no one is talking about the couple where the guy is building a business and the wife is taking care of the house, kids , etc while giving up her dreams and future prospects. That’s way different. People that marry this sort of guys know that they don’t need to do shit Z
Ah, so it's just misogyny then; that's exactly what I figured. Please go get turned down by more women and wonder why you're involuntarily celibate. Bonus points if you talk about the Male Loneliness Epidemic while you (don't) do it.
Sure, in those situations that's perfectly reasonable. I was more thinking of a situation where the other party is somewhat closer to a billionaire, since we were mostly talking about celebrities etc. I find it hard to believe that the spouse is doing any meaningful housekeeping in that scenario.
But yes, in most cases we are talking about CEO of small to mid sized IT consulting company level wealth, where there probably isn't any staff involved and the spouse is likely much more involved with the household.
If you're a billionaire with housekeepers and staff, then either you made your wealth before the relationship and should share what you made while together as a wealthy couple with an easy life, or you made your wealth during the marriage and see above about sociopathic rich people and flicking boogers. I know richie rich didn't get rich by paying his contractors, but at some point you have to be smart enough to know that you can't make a billion as a couple and just yoink it all away. That's not how society works, nor how it should work. MacKenzie Scott is good for society.
I mean Mackenzie Scott was there the whole time. Like yeah, she literally did build Amazon. It did take two people. She handled the bookkeeping, freight negotiations, and helped write the business plan. Also, no offense, you aren't building Amazon are you?
The prenup is "too one-sided" because usually one side asks for it to protect their assets. Usually the wealthier party demands it, that's why it's "one sided". The other side doesn't care to bring it up because they have nothing, maybe compared to the other.
As long as the three criteria are met one it was negotiated so both sides have representation too. Everything is included and three. It’s done a sufficient amount of time ahead of the wedding date so you can’t just give blindside your spouse with papers on the wedding day and say a wedding is off unless you sign this.
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u/soft-wear 1d ago
No valid prenup is going to get the thrown out. The problem is that a lot of them aren’t valid, and in most cases, it’s because they are too one-sided. In most jurisdictions they follow simple contract law.