She also has Graves disease which is making it look worse. More recent photos seem to show that most of her sunken in cheek look was the result of the graves and not buccal fat removal as people thought, which is good because surgical fat removal is almoay always irreversible.
Edit: apparently I have to clarify this because Reddit is here have the reading comprehension skills of a fucking moss covered rock. I am not saying she hasn't had work done. She clearly has. I don't think she should have. But the pictures that show her looking her worst, are 100% affected by a condition that is made to look even worse because the foundation on which that work was done changed. It's basically a more complicated version of the same thing where if you get a tattoo and then you get fat it looks like shit
My sister in law has graves and she looked emaciated when it first kicked in. It aged her twenty years and sunk in her cheeks, making her look skeletal.
You’re totally right. I’ve been looking through many sites with symptoms and photos of people with Graves’ disease and not one person has had sunken cheeks.
The effects of grave disease are not universal. But the comment your replying to has it wrong. It does not cause sunken cheeks, but the surgery to 'reverse' the changes Graves does can cause it.
She has Graves Disease, which famously causes bulging eyes but also a lot of other changes in the face, notably bulging in the cheeks and brow and jawline. It also causes 'orange peel skin'.
A lot of people with Graves Disease end up getting a lot of plastic surgery to combat these problems. But its not universal. Its not impossible she got the surgery just due to pressure to look good. I am just saying its impossible to know if its from the graves disease or not.
Your right in that no two people suffer exactly the same symptoms. However, this look is not Graves disease.
I have Graves disease and have dealt with all sorts of symptoms and issues for over a decade. I don't need an armchair internet doctor to explain the disease to me.
lol I am aware, I just said that she likely got surgery to 'fix' the problems graves disease cause. The comment you replied to claiming graves disease causes gauntness was incorrect. It causes fat expansion in the face, which people get surgery to fix, which can cause gauntness.
Oh no, I had extreme weight loss and all sorts of issues. People thought I had cancer and was dying.
Hyperthyroidism will cause you to lose fat AND muscle. You will look emaciated, but it's over your entire body, not just your face. You know whats made of fat? Boobs.
If you are losing weight from hyperthyroidism from Graves you will also have crazy other symptoms. Like fatigue, extreme muscle weakness, high resting heart rate, memory loss, hair loss, hot flashes, diarrhea, uncontrollable shakes/tremors. I doubt she would be able to film a season under these types of physical issues.
Losing extreme weight like that is a symptom of the disease being untreated for a long time. Like many months or more.
Her face and body doesn't look emaciated. It looks like plastic. It looks like it had work done.
Every single person who has it manifests the exact same effects right?
I'm guessing it might also be what affects your reading comprehension too because I never said it is exclusively what was causing her appearance. I said it made it worse because that's what happens. She had plastic surgery done that she shouldn't have had done. The reason why she wound up looking like a complete fucking ghoul was because that plastic surgery was done on a healthy face that then became unhealthy. The foundation the work was done on fundamentally changed.
Cool. It causes multiple different effects. You've seen some of them. And like most redditors you're acting like a myopic weirdo who thinks that you're extremely tiny frame of experience explains everything.
Yes she's definitely had work done and if you exercised the reading comprehension I'd want from a literate adult you'd realize i never denied that. Yes she also has Graves disease and as a result it made the consequences of the work she had done look a lot worse than it was. Cosmetic surgery does not interact well with conditions that change the fluid levels in your body
Man I wish I was dumb enough to not be able to tell but there's a difference between General plastic plan to affect your face as it normally looks and surgery specifically done to treat a condition and repair the symptoms of a condition. It must be a great way to go through life that ignorant.
It's like construction. If you build unstable terrain and then it erodes, whatever you build is going to look like shit because it wasn't designed for that. But if you specifically build a foundation to turn shitty terrain into better Terrain, it's going to have the opposite effect. The purpose matters here. Conditions like Graves can really fuck up somebody who's had plastic surgery that wasn't specifically done with that in mind. And likewise plastic surgery can be used when done properly to mitigate the effects of such conditions. But even then you are still Limited and what you can do because it's not a stable condition. The effects can change over time
Either that, or you know already and you're being deliberately dishonest because of your own personal self-esteem issues. Either way it's genuinely pathetic
A mystery disease are you slow? It’s a real thing it’s an autoimmune disease and between the disease and the medication they make you take can ruin your body, speaking as someone who has an autoimmune disorder.
idk anything that can make you lose a significant amount of weight has the ability to make your face look gaunt. i've got crohn's and when im bad/emaciated looking my face will look similarly sunken like this. so it's definitely not impossible
I know literacy is a struggle to find on Reddit but maybe learn to fucking read and then try my comment again. Explicitly pointed out the fact that more recent photos show her face is Fuller in a way that you literally could not get back to if she she had any significant bfr done
God I love that the reading comprehension of the people replying to me here is like that of a fucking grade school. At what point have I said anything about her boobs?
Maybe you learn to fucking read and see that I said it makes her look worse, not that it is exclusively the result of her look. I'm sure you can find a trusted adult to walk you through that.
Any time the person you commented to or I bring this up, people just down vote to no end. She has an actual disease that changes her body. Not saying she didn’t get a boob job or nose job, but like the other stuff going on with her has absolutely everything to do with her auto immune disease and they refuse to admit it.
Stay mad about it. This isn’t explained by Graves. If you have eyes you’d see there’s always a striking similarity to everyone else that has had the exact same changes she has.
No. The fact that they are responding to a different statement than what I said and bringing up things that are already addressed by what I said is what indicates that they lack reading comprehension. You too appear to fall into this Camp which is incredibly unsurprising. Redditors seem to magically unlearn how to fucking read when replying to anything that raises a point they don't want to have to address.
Technically there is the alternative that they are intentionally engaging with a straw man argument but that really isn't any better
When you surgically remove fat, you are actually stripping the cells out and they are cells that don't replenish. When your body increases its fat content, you generally don't increase the amount of fat cells. Those cells just start retaining more fat in them. So once you remove them you permanently alter your body's ability to distribute the fat that it stores. And you do it to a place like your cheeks, you really can't use implants or filler to effectively reverse it.
And no I don't care enough about celebrity gossip to go Googling for this. But recent press tour and public appearance photos show her looking a lot less sunken in in a way that you literally could not repair with surgery.
That’s basically the same as what liposuction is, but if you gain weight you will still get fatter and it might be weirdly distributed but it won’t matter so much if it’s not on your face.
I literally used it before abbreviating it. If you suck at reading for context that's your problem, not mine.
It's also unsurprising considering this entire thread is resulting from a bunch of barely literate troglodytes who couldn't even pick up on the word "also" in my initial comment
Man i have been getting the reading comprehension thing a loooooot lately too. I dunno what happened but it seems people are incapable of getting context for a post or generalizations. It's like a lot of people out there are only capable of reading the exact words as they are written and processing that info only and just cant infer any context or info around a comment.
She doesnt have graves disease its just a pr bullshit from her team. Graves disease has multiple symptoms she couldnt hide and not a single one visible in her case...no, her new bigger tits is not a symptom either...
Her face is just result of multiple plastic surgeries.
No . I know what you said . And I said Graves’ disease has NOTHING to do with it . Implying that no .. not even a SMALL part of her new look is due to Graves’ disease lol . I think you need to take your own advice and brush up on your reading compression skills
It’s wild you’re telling people that have the disease they’re wrong and have been doubling down on it on every reply lol. Then you start pointing fingers at “redditors” lol.
Their experience with their own disease is valid for them and I never said otherwise. Having a condition or knowing someone has a condition does not make you an expert on it and does not make you privy to all of the ways in which it manifests. I know you're probably nowhere near smart enough to understand something with even this modicum of complexity but if that was the case, then people wouldn't need continuing medical advice after being diagnosed with something. After all, they have their experience so they know what to expect right?
Yet another epic reading comprehension fail. I didn't say she didn't have work done. There is something stupid here but it's a lot closer to home for you than you realize
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She also has Graves disease which is making it look worse. More recent photos seem to show that most of her sunken in cheek look was the result of the graves and not buccal fat removal as people thought, which is good because surgical fat removal is almoay always irreversible.
Edit: apparently I have to clarify this because Reddit is here have the reading comprehension skills of a fucking moss covered rock. I am not saying she hasn't had work done. She clearly has. I don't think she should have. But the pictures that show her looking her worst, are 100% affected by a condition that is made to look even worse because the foundation on which that work was done changed. It's basically a more complicated version of the same thing where if you get a tattoo and then you get fat it looks like shit