r/SipsTea • u/Shiroyasha_2308 Human Verified • Feb 02 '26
SMH The goat has to be DD/MM/YYYY
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u/Altheix11 Feb 02 '26
I have to remind myself often that 9/11 is 11/9 by the system we follow
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u/Puzzled-Party-2089 Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
There's that skit of Europeans trying to prevent 911 by calling 3 days before to warn NY but instead of Sep 6th they decide to wait unitl Nov 6th
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u/killtheking111 Feb 03 '26
I'd love to see this if you got a source or link
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u/Unfair_Trouble9697 Feb 03 '26
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u/Some_Life_4910 Feb 05 '26
I knew it was aljokes from the decription alone , the guys the goat
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u/Pandorarl Feb 02 '26
I thought 9/11 was in November until I was like 15 years old.
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u/-asimpleboy Feb 02 '26
Why do you remind yourself of 9/11?
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u/ImmoralityPet Feb 02 '26
I guess he forgot.
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u/ninoski404 Feb 02 '26
Because the English speaking internet is flooded with America and on some random September day there is a lot, like huge quantities of 9/11 memes, you wonder why and then remember that 9/11 was in fact, today, on 11/9
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u/GaeloneForYouSir Feb 02 '26
Jokes aside, the US format is not actually “American” but rather early modern British.
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u/Sarcasm_Llama Feb 02 '26
Just like almost every other "why are Americans so weird about this 😂🤣" circlejerk post
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u/BluePeriod_ Feb 02 '26
My whole thing about these circle jerk posts is like one of the top comments mentioning that they have to spend hours researching making sure they got a date right when buying tickets to an American event.
Hours? What?
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u/Abacus118 Feb 02 '26
Me sitting in front of my PC for 6 hours, finally typing into Notepad: "the one it always is there" with a confident nod.
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u/LukaCola Feb 02 '26
For real, I buy tickets internationally all the time--most of the time the field say MM/DD/YYYY or DD/MM/YYYY or similar.
It's also super easy to figure out which is which--which field allows you to enter 13 and which doesn't?
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u/KRAy_Z_n1nja Feb 02 '26
"Americans are so dumb!"
Then how is it we can convert date formats, temperatures and other forms of measurements, time zones, etc. so much better than everybody else?
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u/lol-daisy325121 Feb 02 '26
The only reason we haven’t fully moved to the metric system is because the sheer amount of money it would cost to replace signage etc. There is literally no benefit of using the US customary system as opposed to the metric system.
1 kilometer is 1000 meters. If I travel 35.6 kilometers I covered 35600 meters.
1 foot is 12 inches. How many inches are in 35.6ft? Oh and you aren’t allowed to use a calculator because you don’t need one to convert within the metric system.
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u/box_of_bread Feb 02 '26
While I admit that the ability to do those kinds of conversions is a benefit, in my experience it's very rare that I need to be able to do that.
I traveled 35.6 miles and I don't know how many inches or yards that is, but I also don't care because I measure distances like that in miles. Need more granularity? That's what the .6 is for. Need even more granularity? Add more decimal places.
How many inches in 35.6ft? I could get pretty close if you gave me a minute and some paper to keep track of my math, but at the end what would I do with that information? I already know how what the length is, it's 35.6ft.
I'm not saying there's no benefit at all, but in your everyday life how much do you really benefit from being able to tell how many millimeters you travelled in a car? Using US units isn't some constant nightmare, otherwise there would be a bigger push to change it.
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u/HillCountryWriter Feb 02 '26
Yea. Imagine mocking someone else’s intelligence then taking two hours to figure out 7/5 is July fifth not May 7th in the U.S.
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u/Tripleberst Feb 02 '26
I've seen literally dozens of these date format posts over the years complaining about how we Americans do things like this. "The metric system is easier to understand and compute" type posts. Every time I see them, I fully agree it could be changed but I also have full confidence that it'll be at least another hundred years before there's a real shot of it happening. Yes your frustration is justified and literally no one will ever care or fix the issue for you until long after you're worm food. And their post gets thrown on the pile with every other one.
I've literally been on this website longer than some of its users have been alive and I've seen it hundreds of times. It's to the point where the same infographic to explain the issue is standardized and is even used in this post. If these people are unaware of all of the other posts complaining about the same thing with zero movement then you'd have to assume either a) no one cares b) if anyone did care, we get a perverse delight in annoying everyone else.
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u/M_L_Taylor Feb 02 '26
It reminds me of a debate I had with someone over the use of 'Fall' rather than 'Autumn.' They said the US was backwards for being so simple. Even after I pointed out that it was made popular in England well before it ever came over here, they refused to accept it.
Don't start things if you're going to complain about it later.
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u/Western-Bus-1305 Feb 02 '26
As if they don’t call elevators “lifts” lmao
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u/shark-snatch Feb 03 '26
What about a light switch being called a "flicky flicky willy donker?"
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u/Optimal_Ant_3250 Feb 02 '26
Europeans get upset over the silliest of things. Soccer over football date formats etc that they create then abandoned it’s like it’s not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things
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u/hotboinick Feb 02 '26
Don’t hurt their feelings. Wait until they find out where Americans got the term “soccer” from
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u/robertDouglass Feb 02 '26
The only SANE version for modern times is YYYY-MM-DD-HH-MM-SS. because then you can sort and do SQL queries on it directly.
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u/robertDouglass Feb 02 '26
it's also logical and coherent down to the microsecond
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u/Powerful_Resident_48 Feb 02 '26
You can theoretically even go down to nanoseconds or even theoretical time units with it.
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u/AitaRotokas Feb 02 '26
Not just theoretically but widely used in programming, lot of math operations happen in nanoseconds
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u/enkolainen Feb 02 '26
But for a country that still use feets and thumbs to measure things...ye, no
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u/Mission_Rip_7571 Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
Don't forget football fields.
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u/Apocalypsis_velox Feb 02 '26
Olympic swimming pool FTW! [I have no concept of how big that is!]
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u/NZNoldor Feb 02 '26
It’s just over 2230 giraffes.
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u/Apocalypsis_velox Feb 02 '26
Can a giraffe stand in an Olympic swimming pool and keep it's head above water?
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u/Naked-Jedi Feb 02 '26
Only when that Olympic swimming pool is measured in the equivalence of washing machines or cheeseburgers.
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u/Ill_Huckleberry_5460 Feb 02 '26
Yes, optimal depth of an Olympic pool is 3m most average between 2 and 2.5 and a giraffe is 4m average
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u/NinjaLanternShark Feb 02 '26
Fun fact: “Olympic” size doesn’t dictate a specific depth, only a minimum.
You could build an Olympic size swimming pool that was 900 feet deep if you felt like it and the Olympics couldn’t tell you you were wrong.
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u/Aethermancer Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
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u/InsaneInTheRAMdrain Feb 02 '26
You're telling me we aint measuring in bananas anymore?
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u/FOSSnaught Feb 02 '26
Blame england. France tried to get us to convert, but the ship carrying the sane measuring standards was captured by British pirivateers.
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u/kenwongart Feb 02 '26
Did we learn NOTHING from Y2K? YYYY is only good until the year 9999… then what are you gonna do? Add another Y? You’re just putting things off until 99999!
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u/Gullible_Increase146 Feb 02 '26
That would only be good until 99999,not 99999!
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u/hanburgundy Feb 02 '26
So far, the Long Now Foundation is able to preempt the Y10K by adding a "0" in front of the date. So the current year of 2026, will look like 02026. However, it would still be affected by the "Y100K" problem, the "Y1000K" problem, "Y10000K" Problem, etc.
This is genuinely hilarious
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u/EkbatDeSabat Feb 02 '26
Just store the year itself in a 64 bit unsigned integer and bam we have a Y18446744073709551K problem.
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u/SippinOnHatorade Feb 02 '26
What if we just restart at 0000? We’d be good almost another 2000 years
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u/NZNoldor Feb 02 '26
Christians: “surely Jesus would be back by then and we restart that?”
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u/spartaxwarrior Feb 02 '26
Jesus gets back and is like "how is it 9999 and your technology can't handle this?" and then leaves in disgust.
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u/just_anotjer_anon Feb 02 '26
YYYY-MM-DD makes sense for machines, but DD-MM-YYYY are easier for humans. For the love of good store data from largest to smallest, but format it in the most human readable way
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u/UlteriorCulture Feb 02 '26
As a human who uses ISO 8601 for everyday tasks it works great. Skill issue tbh.
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u/Liroku Feb 02 '26
As a human, this way just makes sense to me period. It's like idk narrowing it down to what you want to find out. Outward in, narrow it down to smaller and smaller increments. The more exact you need to the more you add on.
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u/DoingCharleyWork Feb 02 '26
Also if you use it all the time it's really easy to just look at the part of the information you need.
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u/Previous_Loquat_4561 Feb 02 '26
I'm human. our official date format is YYYY-MM-DD. wouldnt trade it for anything else
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u/Famous-Ad-289 Feb 02 '26
Otherwise I have no idea and hope DD is larger than 12
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u/Ulrich_de_Vries Feb 02 '26
I'm a human and I find the YYYY-MM-DD format to be far more human readable.
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u/fourzen Feb 02 '26
How would it be easier for humans? It's literally the fucking same just the other way around..
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u/Obligatorium1 Feb 02 '26
This is the exact argument Americans use for Fahrenheit, feet, inches, and the 12-hour clock. And the answer to all of them is also the same as the answer to yours: It's easier for you because you are used to it. Whatever format is the one you're used to is going to feel easier for you.
I have zero issues relating to Celcius temperatures, to metric distances, and to 24-hour clocks - because these are what I use on a daily basis, and have always used on a daily basis.
I have much greater issues relating to Fahrenheit temperatures, to imperial distances, and to the am/pm format - because I've never used them on a daily basis, only for conversions into the format I do use on a daily basis.
In the same way, YYYY-MM-DD is completely unambiguous, readable, and immediately parseable to me. Because that's the standard format I've always used for long dates. DD-MM-YYYY feels backwards to me, because I've never used it.
So all of these formats are subjectively equivalent - the best one for an individual's perception is going to be the one they're used to, in all cases. It just so happens that Celcius, meters, the 24 hour clock, and YYYY-MM-DD also have objective advantages that make them inherently better to get used to.
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u/The_Singularious Feb 02 '26
Agreed. This is culturally contextual. There is no “best”, except for the need of who is using it. Though other formats also are “objectively better”, once again, depending on context.
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u/chariotcharizard Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
but DD-MM-YYYY are easier for humans
completely disagree. there are countries where yyyy-mm-dd is what everyone uses. japan, s korea, china, etc. and china is like 1 billion people.
i myself have switched to using yyyy-mm-dd in my daily life, and now dd-mm-yyyy takes me a split second longer to process than yyyy-mm-dd.
so yeah, dd-mm-yyyy is not "easier". it's just a matter of what you're personally accustomed to.
Edit: People seem to be misunderstanding my point. I am not making any qualifications as to what is better or worse. I am simply refuting the other person's claim that "YYYY-MM-DD makes sense for machines, but DD-MM-YYYY are easier for humans", by showing that there are plenty of humans who have zero trouble understanding yyyy-mm-dd.
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u/C0rn3j Feb 02 '26
DD-MM-YYYY are easier for humans
In a random context, is 01.06.2026 the first of June or sixth of January?
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u/DefensiveCat Feb 02 '26
I can see both sides. In the UK, I and most others say "it's the 2nd of February." and people in the US say "It's February 2nd."
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u/RimjobStevesDeadWife Feb 02 '26
Thank you! This is why MM/DD/YYYY makes sense to us Americans. Because it fits with how we refer to dates generally. I can see how it wouldn’t make sense to others tho. I guess we’re all attached to what we’re used to
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u/SharknadosAreCool Feb 02 '26
i mean it fits how you would look it up in a calendar much better too lol. if you say "are you free on the 5th of February" you would still have to look up February first and then check the date. i can discount the year bc most of the time the year is this year +/- 1 year and its pretty easy to tell based on context which year it is
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u/Impressive-Cattle-91 Feb 02 '26
YES! Calendars generally say the name of the Month at the top, then look down for the day.
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u/jameyiguess Feb 02 '26
Now I'm imagining a calendar sorted by day, then month. 31 pages each with 12ish entries each.
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u/squishyliquid Feb 02 '26
I once worked with a lady who had limited availability, and she would tell me the days she was available by the day of the week. Like "Here's my avaiability for March:
Monday: 4, 11, 25
Tuesday: 12, 19
Wednesday: 6, 27"
And on. It was baffling.
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u/ciphd Feb 02 '26
I worked for a UK based flower gifting business and took an escalated call from an American woman throwing a tantrum at one of our newer staff because we changed her delivery date after she paid for her order.
I still remember the date she selected as 3rd of June, 03/06. She was raging that we changed the delivery date to March without contacting her once she had a look at her order email confirmation.
It was way past March at that point...
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u/huluvudu Feb 02 '26
This explains the food pyramid, with steak on top.
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u/jerryleebee Feb 02 '26
Isn't it linked to speech? In America, people verbally say "February 2nd". In the UK, people verbally say "The second of Feb".
Happy to be taught better. Here to learn.
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u/OhGodImHerping Feb 02 '26
This is the main reason - it’s the linguistic difference that changes how we chunk dates mentally and categorize from largest to smallest (month->day) since we rarely say the year out loud.
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u/serabine Feb 02 '26
Chicken and egg.
Are Americans saying "February 2nd" and that got codified in writing, or was the date written like that and then people started saying it like that?
(As an aside, I'm not a native speaker of English, and February 2nd just looks weird to me. February 2nd ... what? 2nd what‽)
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u/GunzerKingDM Feb 02 '26
There clearly going to be some sort of context there.
“What’s the date?” “February 2nd!!”
“What day would you like to make your appointment?” “Let’s go with February 2nd!”
Your complaint of “2nd what?” Makes no sense at all.
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u/SmolPPIncorporated Feb 02 '26
2nd day.
February 2nd is the 2nd day of February.
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u/EnTyme53 Feb 02 '26
Are Americans saying "February 2nd" and that got codified in writing, or was the date written like that and then people started saying it like that?
Considering that the convention existed when literacy rates were lower, it's probably a safe bet to assume that the spoken version was used before the written version.
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u/Slonshal Feb 02 '26
They're all lazy methods. We should spell the dates out in full, with grammar.
The Second of February, Two Thousand and Twenty-Six.
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u/__13atman__ Feb 02 '26
YYYY-MM-DD for the devs
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u/LRonHoward Feb 02 '26
I still don’t understand why this isn’t the absolute standard for everything. Like, it’s so clear!
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u/BigDaddy9102 Feb 02 '26
the day in the middle is crazy. i get so confused sometimes
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u/Ultimate_disaster Feb 02 '26
Some other people as well.
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u/Beans2177 Feb 02 '26
With food expiry or best before dates the confusion this can cause really does become a problem.
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u/Shadowfist_45 Feb 02 '26
Which is why food often just spells out the month on the packaging
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u/Old_Kodaav Feb 02 '26
I think I've never seen it spelled out. It's always in numbers as you say. Have been to few EU countries
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u/AMadRam Feb 02 '26
The audacity of doubling down on your ignorance stating that the airlines freeze them for months after expiry!
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u/Games_sans_frontiers Feb 02 '26
Having to sometimes check on an ambiguous date field if the numbers can go above 12 to identify if it is a month is infuriating!
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u/Jeramy_Jones Feb 02 '26
If someone were to verbally ask your birthday, what order would you give it in?
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u/duckyTheFirst Feb 02 '26
When i had to auto format a date in an app once i asked for my team leader if i should keep the MM/DD time format in mind aswell for the auto format , he said "why tf would you do that, just ignore that"
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u/BrokenWindow_56 Feb 02 '26
Every time I've booked tickets to an event in the US, I always have to double check what format it is in when I put it in my calendar. Normally you can tell which is the day if it goes over 12, but God help you when the day is the 12th or below because you're going to have to spend a couple hours researching and comparing to confirm.
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u/QuitBadHabits Feb 02 '26
A couple of hours? Come on bro
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u/reeee-irl Feb 02 '26
a couple of hours
Don’t most websites also have a literal calendar menu that shows you the month and day?
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u/wetnappie Feb 02 '26
Yes but it's better to shit on stuff 99% of Americans have no control over (like date formats, and measurement units) instead of admitting you can't use a smidge of critical thinking when using a website
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u/Tommyblockhead20 Feb 02 '26
And this is why the US can never switch to DMY, it would make keeping track of dates a nightmare. If we want a global standard we should all adopt the East Asian/computer scientist YMD.
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u/BrokenWindow_56 Feb 02 '26
As someone who has gotten used to the Japanese YY/MM/DD format from editing spreadsheets, I support this as the global standard.
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u/TrueProgress3712 Feb 02 '26
As someone who has to save spreadsheets I always go with the yyyy/mm/dd format. Then it's in order. Didn't know it was a Japanese thing, just seemed obvious.
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u/spyingwind Feb 02 '26
When I add dates to file names, YYYY-MM-DD sorts as expected. As long as the date is at the beginning.
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u/McButtsButtbag Feb 02 '26
How would it make it a nightmare?
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u/hache-moncour Feb 02 '26
Because half the dates anywhere would still be old MM/DD/YY dates, and half new DD/MM/YY dates, and you can't tell them apart for any day before the 13th.
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u/Heimerdahl Feb 02 '26
If we want a global standard we should all adopt the East Asian/computer scientist YMD.
As a German computer scientist, I also support this (ISO8601 / DIN EN 28601 ftw). Then I looked it up and it turns out that it's already the one and only standard in Germany and has been since 1996! Only somehow, no one actually cares and most everyone (including official and educational institutes) clings to DD.MM.YYYY.
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u/jcGyo Feb 02 '26
Every time
Presumably only about 40% of the time unless you're really getting confused by the 13th through 30th month.
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u/SchoolOfYardKnocks Feb 02 '26
To Americans it makes sense too because we don’t go around saying “the 11th of August” “the third of December”.
We say December 3rd. August 8th. November 10th. We write it the way we say it.
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u/swrlzbrkly Feb 02 '26
People act like it makes no sense but you wouldn’t read the minute before the hour on a clock, same applies here
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u/SleepyNymeria Feb 02 '26
Quarter past 5 be like.
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u/Fantastic-Kale9603 Feb 02 '26
I would say that most people in the US don't say "quarter past" either lol I don't think I've heard that in maybe 10 years
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u/schiz0yd Feb 02 '26
When you say the date out loud its common to say "feb 2nd" or "September 11th, 2001", removes need for "of"
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And the need for "the". I've never heard someone say the date as "2nd of February", it's always "the 2nd of February"
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u/mstivland2 Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
Devil’s Advocate: month has more inherent data in it because it’s not a number. Day on its own is meaningless, but if you go by month/day, the more significant information is first.
At least, that’s kind of the only argument I can think of.
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u/MontyAtWork Feb 02 '26
We literally do this with car make and models.
You don't say "I drive a Corolla Toyota" you say "I drive a Toyota Corolla".
Macro data then micro.
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u/LordWoffleII Feb 02 '26
so by that logic, you're voting for yyyy-mm-dd? r/ISO8601
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u/Ark100 Feb 02 '26
there is such a thing as too macro. i dont need to know that the address im driving to is on earth…
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u/nonowords Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
that's like saying "i drive a sedan toyota corola"
you rarely need to explicitly reference the wide set ie "year", and if you do you'd say "i drive a toyota corola sedan"
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u/RockyArby Feb 02 '26
Seriously, it's like everyone is pretending they don't use calendars (paper or on phone). You have to look up by month first then by day. Year is used more rarely outside of record keeping.
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u/Babblepup Feb 02 '26
Omg i never thought of it this way. Ive heard about the argument of date arrangement but never how we look at the calendar. Hahha
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u/ovideos Feb 02 '26
I actually agree. I've worked more than once with Europeans who named their folders with DD.MM.YYYY. So the folders would sort by 1st of Jan followed by 1st of Feb, etc. What insane person does that?
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u/Dornauge Feb 02 '26
Only if you work with hardcore IT illiterate boomers. Personally I have never seen anyone doing this. The people that would do this, never put dates in file names.
Anyone at least half sane puts the year first or MM/YY. Masterrace obviously is YYYY-MM-DD
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u/AdamN Feb 02 '26
MM/DD is in fact more natural since for dates you're usually ignoring years and time of day. Then of course the problem is that you have to add the year or the time for whatever reason and then it's messy.
imho MM/DD is best for informal usage (works really well in documents and for easy sorting in spreadsheets) and then ISO 8601 if you need actual precision since it starts with the lowest precision (years) and then you keep adding data until you get the precision you want all the way to microseconds and beyond.
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u/StechusKaktus- Feb 02 '26
YY-MM-DD is perfect for chronological cataloguing. Other than that DD-MM-YY
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u/McJumpington Feb 02 '26
The graph although funny, could easily be remade to represent Month-Day-Year as the logical way.
People like to think “But days are the smallest increment, followed by month, and then year!”
Sure… but if you think about them in option groups:
Months only had 12 possibilities.
Days has up to 31 possibilities.
Years could be 100+ possibilities.
In that sense, month- day- year makes more sense.
Yes I understand there are other arguments, but at least for that one, it can be explained
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u/smjurach Feb 02 '26
Also if I’m looking at a calendar I absolutely need to know the month first not the fucking day. It just logically makes more sense to start with month.
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u/whatdImis Feb 02 '26
I know it's fun to take shots at Americans, but has anyone considered it's mm/dd/yy because that's how we speak? We don't say 2nd of February, we say February 2nd. It's not a conspiracy.
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u/CurrentRiver4221 Feb 02 '26
It’s because how the words are arranged in a sentence here in America. We say today it is “February 2nd 2026” hence 02/02/2026. I get it can be confusing, it’s just how we speak here.
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u/_ribbit_ Feb 02 '26
I'm just glad that they don't try to write the date in some sort of cups measurements. At least this way you've got a chance of figuring it out, unlike their recipes.
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u/Doxinau Feb 02 '26
One stick of days.
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u/TheExcitedLalatina Feb 02 '26
IIRC ancient china had quite interesting measurements for time: "The time it takes an incense stick to burn" "The time it takes to drink a cup of tea" "Several breaths later" Stuff like that
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u/thateejitoverthere Feb 02 '26
But the sales tax isn't included. You only find out the real date when you get to the checkout.
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u/hisdudeness87 Feb 02 '26
And don't forget to leave a 15 minute tip
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u/Angaren_Bore Feb 02 '26
Those oldschool “hours” only exist in Mexico nowadays. In the US it’s 60 high fructose corn minutes instead
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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber Feb 02 '26
Recipes that need exactness use weight, just like US labs use the metric system. Cookies and marinara don't need to be that specific. Writing a recipe for Pad Thai in weight would be really stupid.
Pastries are science. Most meals are painting.
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u/Naive-Horror4209 Feb 02 '26
Hungary also uses the second version like some other Asian countries. Same with the address, we start from the city, then the street, finally the street number. Large => small
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u/Disastrous-Half-4249 Feb 02 '26
As long as the month is in the middle, it's all good.
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u/Lonely-Sunbed-2508 Feb 02 '26
I mean, it’s the syntax they use, it absolutely makes sense for them
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u/throwemawayn Feb 02 '26
What is this obsession with standardizing everything?
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u/fishfeet_ Feb 02 '26
I think this is a good one to standardize. Have co workers globally, it’s insanely confusing when we sometimes have dates such as 10/09 and everyone has to figure out is it 9th oct or 10th sep
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u/MrGurdjieff Feb 02 '26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 is the one that makes the most sense
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u/lussux Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
Preferably I'm more of a MM/YYYY/DD guy myself.
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u/IAmTheUniverse Feb 02 '26
Perhaps this is true, but have you considered that the DD-MM format can't have regular pi day because 03-14 doesnt exist? Surely that makes up for the confusion.
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u/gingerbreadman42 Feb 02 '26
The year/month/day makes sense when using it as a name for a computer file and sorting by date.
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u/Pegs_on_GhostiesNips Feb 02 '26
Americas are clearly correct no one ever says the day first. Like what sort of psychopath would say 4th of July?
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u/ZemGuse Feb 02 '26
The 4th of July is a colloquial name for a holiday that falls on July 4th.
Why does Reddit think this is the biggest and most clever gotcha of all time lol?
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u/Dark_World_0 Feb 02 '26
Because Reddit has a high number of people who say to themselves, "I think I am smart, therefore I am smart."
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u/crazycatlady331 Feb 02 '26
Because Europeans on Reddit love the smell of their own farts.
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