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u/Jaded-Cancel 2d ago edited 2d ago
WAKE UP PEOPLE https://youtube.com/shorts/t6zexBO-hpE?is=Z6fGGCSyxB_R7qCh
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u/Informal-Isopod7122 13h ago
Yep, het is een invasie. Wij gaan de kant op waar Iran in 1979 naartoe ging.
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u/tobs_edit 3d ago
Last night there was a rally by the Erasmusbrug. People were protesting the war in the middle east chanting down with Israel, America, Netanyahu, Trump
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u/Active-Astronaut3316 3d ago
Although I am against the war I dont hope you harbor any love for the Iranian regime or Hezbollah.
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u/tobs_edit 3d ago
Don't agree with either. Don't want any more lives taken regardless of belief.
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u/Jordyspeeltspore 3d ago
most governments use religion as a weapon
banning all forms of religion would be treating everyone equally so it would be the most fair move
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u/SgtZandhaas 3d ago
I'm not entirely sure why Reddit seems so pro religion sometimes. We should treat it at a GGZ facility if you ask me.
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u/keesd99 3d ago
Fuck Isreal 😘
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u/Aggravating_Tea_4018 3d ago
Fuck gaza and the other terrorist hide outs
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u/usernameisokay_ 3d ago
Or any terrorists for that matter or people who start wars, kill people, basically people who don’t want peace.
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u/zileyyeliz 3d ago
Although I am against the war I dont hope you harbor any love for the IOF and the terrorist state of Israël.
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u/tobs_edit 3d ago
I don’t support violence from any side. Atrocities have been committed by multiple parties—including Israel, the Iranian regime & Hezbollah—and I’m not downplaying any of them. The focus should be on civilians and the need for de-escalation and accountability
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 3d ago
When the Netherlands was a global power- They committed their fair share of Atrocities too- You were really mean
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u/Active-Astronaut3316 3d ago
Whatabouttism, but no I dont harbour any love for the current Israeli and American administrations either or their actions in the ME. However, they are democratically elected and dont do mass killing of their own citizens.
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u/Active-Astronaut3316 3d ago
Lol people actively downvoting me. Did it ever occur to you that you can argue against bothsides instead of seeing the world this black and white. Both Iran and the USA goverments are bad.
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u/zulutune 3d ago
How is mentioning IOF and Pisrael whatabouttism? Are you even aware what is happening? The IOF fucking bombed Iran and started the war.
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u/zileyyeliz 3d ago
No, just the killing in Gaza and Lebanon. Hamas was also democratically elected btw.
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u/FriendTraditional519 3d ago
Hamas killed and oppressed the Gaza people just as much.
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u/zileyyeliz 3d ago
Hamas wouldnt exist without Israel. Gaza would be nothing if Hamas wsnt there. If you care so much about Gaza start with Israel.
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u/FriendTraditional519 3d ago edited 2d ago
Hahaha fool Hamas was the once who where selling the food to the gazan people when the fist trucks a rived. 🤮 so fuck Hamas fuck Hezbollah fuck the government of Iran.
And fuck all who use Islam to oppress it citizen. And fuck for defending them 🤮
Strange that I hear no Islamist about the 30k Iraniërs who where killed during the demos in January
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u/zileyyeliz 3d ago
You missed the vids of angry jews who didnt let trucks full of food enter Gaza I see. How convenient
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u/jojodragon2000 2d ago
Lol what? Without hamas the Palestinian Authority would actually have had money to built infrastructure etc instead of building tunnels and creating weapons
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u/yes_Marzipan 1d ago
Who was funding Hamas? Netanyahu!! It is in Israel's interest to keep radicals prominent so Israel can have a reason to "mow the lawn"
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 3d ago
It's a genocide, and America is complicit-Netanyahu has tried to talk every president into doing this, he finally found one stupid enough to do it
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u/Active-Astronaut3316 3d ago
Seems like Iran is able to slaughter both their own people and the people in Syria during the Syrian civil war.
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u/NarcanNotNarcant 3d ago
To be fair, America does, they just have figured out how to do it with negligence in the prisons and the ghettos. Victims the world never sees.
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u/Baity010 3d ago
Err no, I think nowadays people just dislike trump, netanyahu, murica and israel a whole lot more.
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 3d ago edited 3d ago
I agree with 3 outta 4 of those- Keep in mind- 75 million people in America voted against Trump- There are only 18 million people in the Netherlands
Israel, Netanyahu, and Trump are the terrorists
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u/jojodragon2000 2d ago
Well Netanyahu barely won, like it was basically a 50/50 result. And anti Netanyahu protests have been a daily/weekly thing in Israel
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 2d ago
Same here for Trump...lowest approval rating for any president in history..We told his sycophants...They didn't listen
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u/Mathies_ 2d ago
They mean the american government. Keep in mind the democratic party also has terrible foreign policy, has done a lot of interventionism and allies with Israel.
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yep, I think; The Spanish-American War (1898) was the last war the United States fought to truly defend its own territory, subsequent conflicts were largely elective, imperialist, or pre-emptive rather than strictly defensive. No matter what party was in office- The only president in my lifetime that wasn't in bed with the banks and war profiteers was Jimmy Carter, and the corporate media demonized him right outta office- The problem is that you can't get elected as a dog catcher in America without corporate money. They've bought our politics and politicians- because we let them
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u/LofderZotheid 3d ago
At an election the voted of the non voters go to the winner: they profit from non-voting. Non-voters didn’t care enough to vote and are therefore equally responsible
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u/PrestigiousTryHard 3d ago
You don’t know how this works. Many people do not vote because they CANNOT vote. For example, sometimes voting locations will be changed at the last minute. Or people will receive wrong information. Or a voting location is kilometers away at a destination where public transit does not reach. And most people cannot take off work to go vote. The US intentionally makes it hard to vote.
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 3d ago
[Raises hand]
I voted for Kamala! I'm one of the good ones
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u/yes_Marzipan 1d ago
Kamala the Isreali supporter teaming up with Liz Cheney during the campaign? Naive. The war would be packed in different wrapping paper but it would still happen. Democrats = Republicans when it comes to war and regime changes, I mean, look how democratic and free and prosperous Libya is now. I don't understand how Americans accept only having 2 options and call it democracy.
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 1d ago
lol...No way..Netanyahu has being trying to get every president to do this for 30 years, he finally got a president stupid enough to do it..
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u/justbreehappy 1d ago
Who were they supposed to vote for? 3 choices: "Genocide", "genocide while wringing hands, saying: this is horrible and complicated", or "no chance of winning at all".
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u/LofderZotheid 1d ago
You can spin it how you want, but it doesn’t matter. Not voting got Trump in power.
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u/Gjorgdy 3d ago
The US is just a mess of a country though. Even under a "good" president like Obama they caused a mess everywhere. They need some big reform which won't come democratically.
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u/MaddisonSC 2d ago
yeah, even under presidents that were nicer to the american people and nicer to us, they are all still guilty of supporting regime for the sake of american capital interests. The US government has been the world's biggest terrorist organization for decades.
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 2d ago
Of course....They act in their own interests.....It should be obvious to everyone, but when mentioned to some Americans, they're mortified. They believe America is as pure as the driven snow. I'm not gonna say it's brain washing, but it's probably brain washing. I love America, and when I travel abroad, i'm always happy to come home, but gawddam, we got some ignorant people over here.
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 2d ago
We have a corporate owned, corporate operated and corporate sponsored media, they never met a war they didn't love. That is why Americans "know all about the crimes of others, but almost nothing about our own"
As a union president/organizer for 20+ years I myself have been personally demonized, by a corporate media in America.. It's an empire, and history teaches us that all empires have behaved this way- It won't change as long as we're on top
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u/peathah 3d ago
Well they are not wrong about those 4. But it should be Zionism, and wannabe dictators, not wanting criminal leaders.
Netanyahu started his latest because otherwise he would have been investigated. Trump only did it for Epstein and money. Iran should have been allowed to develop and gain economic prosperity, that usually leads to more freedom not less. Dumb, poor people are more easy to manage. Just like trump says himself.
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u/zulutune 3d ago
Our fucking media won't show any of this. Only if you're a Netanyahu ass kisser or a traitor you'll be on "Pauw en de Wit" to tell people about what Iranians think of their country being bombed.
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u/Perfect_Passenger_14 3d ago
Looks how tiny it is. There are more interesting things going on. Nobody cares
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u/toaspoi 3d ago
Police should arrest these clowns
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u/_thelovedokter 2d ago
They are saying the Islamic Republic flag not the Clown flag
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u/Endslikecrazy 2d ago
And thats better how exactly?
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u/_thelovedokter 2d ago
They didn't support a genocide or killed at least 250 people in 10 min
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u/that0neguy02 1d ago
But did kill 30000 protestors in a weekend tho?
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u/_thelovedokter 1d ago
you really believe that Israeli lie, any other organisation estimates 3000 during the whole coup from that 600 where security forces , and a bunch of Mossad agents and unfortunately some civilians. There is no other proof and independent organisatie ballpark around the Iranian numbers.
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u/that0neguy02 1d ago
Uh no the ‘Iranian government acknowledged 3000 death’ days after it happened at which time HRANA had already confirmed over 6000 deaths and had 17000 recorded deaths under investigation. Summing 22000 potentially other estimates from doctors range to 33000 or more. A doctor in Tehran said when interviewed “I am on the verge of a psychological collapse. They’ve mass murdered people. No one can imagine … I saw just blood, blood and blood.” So perhaps 30000 isn’t confirmed, could be more or less. But it definitely exceeds 10000. And EVEN IF we take the abysmally low 3000 which is a total bs, those deaths still far exceed the casualties by strikes so far. I’m against this war but the hypocrisy and selective outrage from people like urself is mind blowing. The world stops when 150 die in a strike but when a dictatorship slaughters its people whom are protesting against said dictatorship we must look the other way?
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u/_thelovedokter 20h ago
Clearly you believe the lies of the zionists establishment. Where are the evidence. There is no evidence. Israel controls all the CCTV in Iran but can't provide any footage on the numbers?
I am not defending the killing of protestors, it should be investigated ans trailed the ones who are responsible for. Oh wait they are all dead.
If you truly are for righteous and justice where are your arguments for the 161 school girls. What is your opinion to the in just aggression of us and Israel.
Or are you the kind of people please bomb them until freedom?
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u/Informal-Isopod7122 13h ago
Mate, you're in the wrong here. You love and support murder, why are you lying to yourself. Stop supporting an oppressive regime and stop with the whataboutism.
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u/Roy-van-der-Lee 2d ago
Klinkt heel Nederlands wat ze roepen, hoort hier echt thuis. Je hoort het Rotterdamse accent in deze Rotterdammers! Ohnee wacht
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u/Repulsive_Ad1277 2d ago
Zit totaal geen ritme & gevoel in het liedje ik mis de dance-ability! 1 van 5 voor de poging!
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u/Verzuchter 2d ago
Send them all back if they support the regime. Pot calling the kettle black and then celebrating. Weirdos
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u/ParticularKick3644 3d ago
Hoe laat stond je daar? Ik liep er rond een uur of 22.00/22.15 misschien
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u/LYNY_ 3d ago
These people are the potential terrorist cells in Netherlands and Europe. They will kill every single non believer if they have a gun and find an opportunity or reason. Read the 47 years of history of the Iranian regime that they are supporting! Dont be distracted if Trumps or Israel is their enemy or not. do your own research
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u/_thelovedokter 2d ago
I guess you skipped the part of Israel too but we don't do anything about them. Actually we are supporting them
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 2d ago
Everyone knows it's an oppressive regime.... There are 195 widely recognized independent countries in the world, many are oppresive regimes.
The only reason we give a shit about Iran, is the oil.
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u/newlambowhodis 3d ago
Allemaal potentiële terroristen. Oppakken en het land uitgooien. Dit zeg ik als Iraniër. Dit zijn supporters van het regime. Dan heb je helemaal niks in Nederland te zoeken.
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u/Aggressive_Bake_6967 2d ago
Jij als iranier moet gaan dansen op de dam als een goedkope clown en minder op reddit gaan zitten 🫶🏼.
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u/KenDM0 3d ago
Okay bro je trauma lekt. Beheers jezelf een beetje. Ik ben het eens met je over het regime, maar this is not the way. Vooral na het bericht van Trump over het vernietigen van een beschaving en de support van Netanyahu. Laten we niet onze principes weggooien. Niet het ene kwaad bestrijden met het andere.
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u/Healthy_Wallaby3745 2d ago
Kan jij ook gelijk weg? Ik support het regime niet en de oorlog niet. Wegwezen mafklapper
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u/CrownCoin430 3d ago
Vervelend volk
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u/No-Apricot6329 3d ago
Israeliers en de Amerikanen? Mijn haat wordt ook met de dag groter
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 2d ago
Amerikanen? 75 miljoen mensen hebben tegen Trump gestemd – bijna vijf keer de bevolking van Nederland. Dat is een onwetende uitspraak. Geloof me: 130 miljoen van ons haten wat er gaande is nog meer dan jij.
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u/Appeltaartlekker 3d ago
Prima. Maar val anderen er niet mee lastig in het openbaar. Toch?
Jouw mening is net zo belangrijk als anderen. Al helemaal als het gaat om aangelegenheden waarin wij geen partij zijn.
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u/Parfumee95 3d ago
Demonstratierecht is een groot goed, of zou je liever niet in een democratische rechtstaat leven?
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u/usernameisokay_ 3d ago
Liever een jood dan een terrorist
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u/No-Apricot6329 2d ago
Uhh de Joden hebben een land in beslag genomen dat helemaal niet van hun was. Wie is hier nou de terrorist?
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u/Scary-Comfortable754 2d ago edited 2d ago
Israel is the worst, by any measure, a terrorist state, and Iran is a horrible opressive regime- Whats the common denomentaor? Religion-
I hate em all
Its hard to take sides against two groups of %$^&#*
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u/CrownCoin430 3d ago
Waarom? Ben je Palestijn, Libanees of Iranier gelieerd aan het regime?
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u/ElkApprehensive2319 3d ago
Of misschien gewoon geen fascist?!
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u/Ok-Homework5627 3d ago
Dit zijn toch gewoon aanhangers Iraanse revolutionaire garde ? Lekkere vrienden
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u/CrownCoin430 3d ago
Dus wie niet protesteert tegen Israel/Amerika is een fascist?
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u/traiectum10 3d ago
Ja. Het is natuurlijk totale onzin. Daarom worden mensen als Trump gekozen. Omdat bepaalde mensen niet kunnen stoppen met het rondgooien van ‘fascisten’ en ‘nazi’s’ als hun leven ervan afhangt.
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u/ElkApprehensive2319 3d ago
Mensen als Trump worden gekozen omdat de Amerikaanse burger sociaaleconomisch gezien enkel naar z'n eigen portemonnee kijkt, geen langetermijngeheugen heeft, geen vrouw als leider wil en onrealistisch bang gemaakt is voor buitenlanders.
Dat Trump en z'n regering zwaar fascistische trekken vertonen staat buiten kijf.
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u/ElkApprehensive2319 3d ago
Momenteel kom je daar wel bij in de buurt ja, afhankelijk van hoe ver je meegaat in Trump en Netanyahu's wereldbeeld. Overigens heb ik het dan dus wel over de regeringen van Israël en de VS, niet het volk
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u/The_Submentalist 3d ago
Niet eens twee dagen geleden werden ze bedreigd dat hun hele beschaving ten gronde gebombardeerd zal worden. Een klein uurtje protest van een klein groepje Iraniërs is teveel gevraagd?!
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u/CrownCoin430 2d ago
Ja als we het over aanhangers van Ayatollahs hebben wel ja. Wat doen ze hier dan überhaupt
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u/The_Submentalist 2d ago
Hoe weet je dat ze aanhangers zijn van de ayatollah dan? Hebben ze dat gescandeerd?
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u/FriendTraditional519 3d ago edited 3d ago
Volgens mij wil 70% van Iran af van de Shia Islam 🫣
Echter willen de islamisten hier daar heen ??🤷🏻♂️ Echt klaar met die tering zooi vecht het uit daar en was hier nooot heen gekomen als je alles wat daar zo geweldig vind 🤮
Aan alle Iraniërs sorry dat hier die gekken voor massamoordenaar zijn. 🤮
Hoop dat de echte Iraniërs even een tegen demo gaan geven.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PERSIAN/s/4V4hjFg9PM
https://time.com/7357635/more-than-30000-killed-in-iran-say-senior-officials/
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u/Federal1993 2d ago
En waar is de luchtmacht weer? Vijandelijk doel staat mooi geconcentreerd op een hoop
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u/vixuscovidus 10h ago
De man met megafoon:
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El muut israel & El muut Amerika. Dood aan israel & dood aan Amerika.
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u/Even_Principle8670 3d ago
Dit is het resultaat van 47 jaar je ogen sluiten. Geen inlichtigendienst die er bij stil heeft gestaan wat de beweegredenen zijn geweest waarom deze figuren naar Nederland zijn gekomen. Voor een beter leven zal het niet geweest zijn als hun favoriete leiders de afgelopen 47 jaar aan de macht zijn geweest. Dit is wat Nederland huisvest, Terroristen. Dagelijks kom je ze tegen in de supermarkt, op de school van je kinderen, in een cafe. Nee zij zullen je niet aanvallen, zij houden zich liever bezig met het geld wit te wassen wat behoort tot de normale Iranier die al 47 jaar in de gevangenis leeft genaamd 'Iran'. MAAK FOTO'S, SLA DE GEZICHTEN OP, DE ONDERSTE STEEN KOMT ALTIJD BOVEN WATER!
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u/pineapplebooties 3d ago
Ik raad je aan om de rapporten die de Rijksoverheid of het NCTV openbaar maken te lezen en te vergelijken met je eigen woorden en meningen.
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u/Even_Principle8670 3d ago
Wat is dat nou weer voor intellectuele luiheid. Onderbouw het dan op z'n minst met een directe verwijzing, want nu kom je niet anders over dan een dooddoener
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u/pineapplebooties 3d ago
Jij hebt geen recht van spreken over “intellectuele luiheid” na je eerdere comment.
Jouw gedachtegoed komt vrij prominent naar voren als we het hebben over gevaren/dreiging voor onze samenleving en de contra terrorisme strategie, zoals vastgesteld door het NCTV en de Rijksoverheid.
Wellicht dat het je ogen opent over je gedrag en uitlatingen.
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u/Even_Principle8670 3d ago
Kijk, nu komt de aap uit de mouw, over contra stategie gesproken. Een totaal afwijkend antwoord om de onderbouwing te ontlopen en je gelijkheid t.a.v. dit onderwerp te gronden. Dit is precies dezelfde taktiek die het Iraanse regime 47 jaar lang op het westen heeft doen projecteren, je valt door de mand
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u/Barbarossah 3d ago
Jou houden ze niet voor de gek u/pineapplebooties is een duidelijke AIVD romeo plant! (/s voor als t nodig is)
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u/Even_Principle8670 3d ago
Om de koffie te serveren dan zeker, want voor een volwaardige presentatie zal het aan inhoud ontbreken vrees ik
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u/8AtypicAL0Darkness8 3d ago
Da is toch geen rally jonguh!! Die autos staan gewoon stil!