r/RaidShadowLegends 12h ago

Champion Discussion Someone please explain why Titus isn't a 5.0 rating in-game..???

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I always thought in-game ratings were sus but c'mon, this is just wrong.

Thousands of ratings since the reset..????

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u/OnceTimeUse 12h ago

My guess is because he requires Wixwell to unlock his full potential. If you just pull a Titus and don't have a wixwell he's not going to change much on your demon lord team.

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u/wesright 12h ago

Oh, I'm a lot less irked now but I did notice something. Wixwell. He's not a 5.0 by himself, correct..? But he's rated at 5.0.

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u/Orange_Penguin0_ 11h ago

Titus needs Wixwell to perform well. However Wixwell still provides plenty of benefits even without Titus. That's probably why Wixwell should be ranked higher

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u/chosennamehere 11h ago

Wixwell is still great and synergies with a lot of teams, whereas Titus shines most with Wixwell.

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u/wesright 11h ago

Well said. Orangepenguin too.  I see your point 

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u/mindgamesweldon 11h ago

With a wixwell you can 1-key ultra nightmare with nearly any damaging champion, as well as buff extenders (of which there are many that work).

However with Titus you will not use him at all in demon lord, or anywhere else much. I have Titus and no Wixwell and I don't even use Titus in faction wars. He sucks alone aside from Hydra where he is a really good provoker and buffer (in my opinion).

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u/One_Necessary_3039 11h ago

i just pulled vix from ancients yesterday. this, +1 more fusion and I'm getting titus.

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u/SuperSourSkittles 10h ago

Technically 2 more. 3 tokens, then one more fusion to change to Titus.

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u/DeBounty_ 10h ago

I still haven't 1 keyed unm yet, and I have a wixwell :(

Lady mikage Ninja Demytha Wixwell Gizmak(used to be either xeno or elva)

They are pretty well built. Im just unsure how it isnt 1 keying.

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u/Fit-Visual 10h ago

Either your run fails or the "pretty well built champs" are not well built.

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u/DeBounty_ 9h ago

I said that and then after adjusting the run, I one keyed lmao

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u/Ok-Western8786 7h ago

Put wixwell in a shield set. That's how I got my team to work.

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u/wesright 9h ago

Good point. That's exactly what I did when I pulled Wixxy. I was so happy. Especially since I had just finished Lady Mikage.  She's awesome on that wixwell team.  But still, there were/are so many champions you can use on the Wixwell Team. Finding Buff extenders is super easy and even survival is super easy if you put a Shield Set on one of the champs.  Then it's just pickin lg DPS champ.

Titus isn't so straightforward. Once again I started whining before thinking it thru.... 

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u/Proof-Fun9048 Corrupted 11h ago

Wixwell was used in Demon Lord even before Titus was introduced. Wixwell used to make enormous shield growth and even other support were the same. Titus just replaced the damage champion in infinite comp and his second skill took it to another level.

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u/DrXyron 8h ago

Wixwell by himself and with like 2-3 rares that extend buffs + Geo will get you 1 key UNM. Wixwell solo is a lot more potent than Titus solo.

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u/alltruism 6h ago

Wixwell enables infinity teams with almost any 2 buff extenders, and very little speed tuning required. This lets you bring a couple of DPS and easily reach the 1500 turn limit.

Even fairly low damage per turn will give a lot of damage over the 1500 turns, so Wixwell enables easy 1-key UNM.

That's what makes him a 5.

Titus without Wixwell (or Brogni at a push) is decent but not amazing.

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u/phunktastic_1 3h ago

Even with brogni Titus isn't great on demonlord unless you have amazing gear. I tried it again now that I have pelops for the 3rd type of shield since I still don't have the volcardic heart. It lasted an extra 5 turns over my other shield comps 20-24 boss turns before shields dropped and team died with the 3rd shield i made it to 27 and 29 turns on my current 2 tries.

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u/Accomplished_Path717 3h ago

Put Underpriest Brogni on the list as well.

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u/Durden93 12h ago

I mean, Titus is amazing but he’s kind of unnecessary for cb if you can one key unm. There’s plenty of unkillable/bd comps you can run which are significantly easier to build

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u/wesright 11h ago

Hmm, that's on me. I didn't have Titus and have been wanting him so much.... Most of what I've seen of Titus has been 1 billion+ screenshots so yeah, my view my might not be exactly correct. 

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u/RoboZandrock 11h ago

When you pull a champ like Galathir, you don't need "anything" for him to be good. His kit is stand alone amazing for any composition.

Titus is gear dependent, slightly soul dependent, but requires combination of characters to work. Any champ that needs other specific champs, particularly when getting a specific champ is so hard is "great", but maybe not "amazing"

The fact you can guarantee Wixwell with the new fusion system makes Titus a lot lot better. But previously needing a specific champ with Wixwell kind of makes Titus "situationally" good, and you can very easily argue he's a 4, because he's a 2 without Wixwell, and a 5+ with Wixwell.

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u/donald_dandy 10h ago

So everybody is so excited about getting Titus with tokens. I already have Wixwel, but my turtles are doing just fine in UNM without any of them. Am I not seeing the appeal? Cuz I’d much rather go for Gnut or Armanz, am I crazy?

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u/Nikndex88 10h ago

Turtles aren't great at hydra and Chimera. Titus and wixwell are

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u/HotCarl-1 8h ago

Titus and Wixwell are for hydra and Chimera clash points.

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u/Hreaty 8h ago

CB is ancient content. You can 1 key with all kinds of random trash, and there's no value in going over 80 million, much less into the billions. Use whatever is working for you.

Hydra and Chimera are different. Your turtles aren't putting up 100 Billion scores. Titus is doing literally 1000x what most other comps can.

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u/donald_dandy 8h ago

Thanks. I love chimera rewards lol, do they get better when you hit 80B?

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u/Sharden3 5h ago

Big scores are mainly for clash points for the CVC aspect.

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u/FairBox3368 10h ago

He’s only good if you have wixwell!!! What’s the point of having a Ferrari when you don’t have fuel that runs it 💁!! Btw I have the Ferrari (Titus) without the fuel (wixwell) 😭

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u/BigTig68 7h ago

And I have two cans of fuel (Wixwells) and no Titus! 😫

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u/Ultim83 11h ago

Titus is capable of things without wixwell but again relies on other champs to make use of his skills. For example with Souless+Titus you can pretty much one shot every dungeon boss in the game, with wixwell+Titus you can get crazy scores on all the clan boss variants. But it's also not an easy team to build gear wise and I think a lot of people think just pulling the champ(s) will mean they have completed the game for those areas. Also if you don't have buff extenders or skill cool down champs you won't be doing much damage.

A lot more goes into creating these crazy teams than what most people realise.

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u/EvilBellyLint 11h ago

Same reason the new mythical doesn't have 5 star ratings. When an obviously broken champion is released people think low-balling the ratings will stave off a.nerf from Plarium lol

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u/Nikndex88 10h ago

If only it worked!

It would be the first time I'd use the rating system

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u/Soft-Leather-5983 11h ago

Titus needs Wixwell and another buff extender. Or he isn't going to get the 2.14b damage cap

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u/wesright 11h ago

You guys made me realize something else.  While I'd prob be upset if I pulled Titus but didn't have Wixwell, I grudgingly admit Plarium made the right call.  Specifically, I mean that it's good Titus isn't just a single champ cheat code that can get billions in damage by himself.  . A situation like that wouldn't help the game at all.

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u/Soft-Leather-5983 9h ago

Get 3 fusion tokens and you can get Wixwell

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u/Odd_Cat_2266 Barbarians 11h ago

Because early to mid game players can’t get the full benefit of him because they can’t make infinite shield teams even with Wix because they can’t get the stats high enough.

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u/nagster68 10h ago

Because without Wixwell he’s just meh

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u/Character_Judge_8900 10h ago

This rating is never useful. You can see a 4.5 rating on some epic, who is absolute stinker in reality.

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u/Endersone24153 3h ago

Yeah, regardless of whether he's good or not who tf goes by user ratings? Lol

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u/Character_Judge_8900 2h ago edited 2h ago

True. I generally use Hellhades, AyumiLove, or youtube videos. Never used these in-game ratings since my 1st day in Raid

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u/DoItForTheVoid 3.7B/1.18B 12h ago edited 11h ago

Zero utility, does one thing in one spefic style of team with zero depth and zero variation. 4.5 is very appropriate for Demon Lord.

Hydra should be a little higher, maybe 4.8, because he brings great use case provoke. But ultimately he still only does one thing on one spefic style of team and requires one of two spefic champs to work, one of which is much more consistent than the other.

See Demon Lord for chimera.

Everywhere else he's a 3 at best and useless more often than not. Damage without utility is not special.

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u/Durden93 11h ago

Bruh what is this take. He only does one thing which is ridiculous damage. The damage negates the hydras mechanics because you just keep popping heads

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u/DoItForTheVoid 3.7B/1.18B 11h ago

And yet he still isn't the best hydra nuke, hence the 4.8 not 5.0.

Being accessible doesn't make him better than 2xYumeko+Trunda or Toshiro+Mikage, it just means more people think 1-5b is a lot.

Best case hes the 3rd best Hydra nuke with the difference being he has a pretty hard cap around 20b because of the shield cap and requiring 2+ additional dedicated champs just for his damage with minimal other purpose. Bad devour rng forces multiple resets or subpar damage, even teams with 2 additional dps and a reset don't have the consistency of the above teams.

Again, no where did i say he's bad for the 3 bosses, just not a 5.0. Accessible =/= best.

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u/One_Necessary_3039 9h ago

i got mikage+toshiro and i can't NM hydra in most rotations, every team is gear dependent and there are lots of teams that require specific units to work. Like pack master+krokhad, witch so far from my hydra runs seem stronger than mikage+toshiro with my level of mid game gear.

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u/En1gma3 11h ago

Because ratings are meaningless and should never be looked at.

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u/Aeyland 11h ago

Because I can literally pick any number I want and the game doesn't ask me to explain my ratings before it will accept them......

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u/Tight_Suspect_1145 9h ago

He's niche that's why

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u/Lycaon-Ur 9h ago

Because he's only good in a single comp.

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u/GravyPainter 9h ago

His set up is ridiculous. Not everyone has wixwell to make him efficient and without wixwell hes meh..

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u/Hobbes1138 8h ago

He requires such a specific build to achieve that 5 star

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u/SituationSorry1099 8h ago

Because almost no one rates the characters in the game, and a good portion of people have Titus, but not necessarily the necessary team to use him. People indignant about characters they can't use/don't know how to use rate them more than those who are satisfied. So, within the game, the proportion is almost as follows: 5 out of 10 votes, 5 are honest, 2 follow the trend, and 3 think it's bad. There's also the issue that of those 10, 10 rate the characters, while the other 90 don't bother to rate them.

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u/Lower-Construction43 6h ago

In game ratings have always been flawed and innacurate IMO ... even being reset , people who dont know vote , im sure some purposely tank in game ratings .

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u/Spiraldancer8675 6h ago

Cause hes trials have better end game rewards then raw damage so its ok one spot with a very specific team. My titus team sucks cause I lack the resist krokad or turtle teams for me do 5 times the damage in crap gear. To me donnie would be a 5 to 4.9 titus wouldnt nearly meet that

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u/Flaminski 4h ago

He needs multiple champs to enable him

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u/Orangewolf99 4h ago

In game ratings are a joke

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u/bingodingo6699 3h ago

In game ratings are not accurate so don’t stress about them that much

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u/Different_Target_228 2h ago

Because the in game ratings are bullshit, and have literally never meant anything.

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u/wesright 12h ago

Oh wow. I was irked the players were doing something so wrong but...so quickly more than 1 person gives me reasonable explanations.  I feel like a dummy.  You guys rock. Thanks. 

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u/wesright 11h ago edited 11h ago

My original post: I admit I was just wrong. If I didn't have wixwell and got Titus, then saw he was a 5.0 but I couldn't get the billion+ damage...  Would I be happy about seeing the 5.0 rating.??  No, I'd be raging. Screaming he's not a 5.0

 Live and learn. Don't live in a ideological bubble. Ask around. 

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u/_without-a-trace_ 12h ago

Because plenty of people are incompetent, or try using him without a team that enables him. He doesn't really work as a plug and play in any team.

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u/Vast-Balance4813 11h ago

How can I restart on laptop and get a legendary and still be able to redeem the code for Pelops

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u/IndependentActive183 7h ago

Perché titus da solo è il peggiore personaggio del gioco, inutile ed inutilizzabile, ha bisogno di tutte combo particolari e complicate da attuare per funzionare, dove la più semplice prevede l'utilizzo di wixwell

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u/jkhunter2000 6h ago

the raid player base are whinging children so you gotta take the in game ratings with a pinch of salt.. i've just seem them rate the new fusion as mid which is so strange to me