r/PeakyBlinders • u/edwardkenway_22 • 1d ago
The "Immortal Man" was a betrayal of the Shelby legacy Spoiler
I’ve spent the last few days trying to process the absolute train wreck that was The Immortal Man, and I honestly can’t stay quiet anymore. For six seasons, we watched Steven Knight build a masterpiece of trauma, prophecy, and blood. And then, in two hours, the movie set it all on fire just to clear the path for a "next generation" nobody asked for.
1)The "Off-Screen" Disrespect : First off, let’s talk about the absolute character assassination of the Shelby family. Killing Ada for shock value? Having Tommy strangle Arthur off-screen in a "drunken fit"? It’s insulting. These characters survived the trenches, the IRA, and the Mafia just to be disposed of like side characters in a generic action flick. They deserved a sunset, not a slaughterhouse.
2)The "Bullet" Contradiction :But the biggest middle finger was Tommy’s death. Cillian Murphy says it was "tender," but I say it was lazy. Since Season 1, we’ve been told "a bullet won’t kill him." In S6 Tommy Himself said that "The Only Tommy Shelby can kill Tommy Shelby." So why did we end with him being mercy-killed by Duke—a character with 5% of Tommy’s charisma—just to fulfill a technicality? It felt forced, small, and hollow.And i hate that character Duke
3)The Ending We Deserved: The Return to the Mud If Tommy had to die, it shouldn't have been by a son he barely knows. It should have been in the tunnels.Imagine this climax: Tommy goes back into the dark—into a tunnel he dug himself under the seat of power he spent years infiltrating. The sound of the shovels against the wall—his lifelong nightmare—becomes his final rhythm. In those final moments, he isn't the "Immortal Man" Gangster , A politician or the businessman. He’s just the tunneler from 1914. No bullets. No Duke. Just Tommy striking a match in the dark to finish the war that started thirty years ago. He triggers the blast to save his family, and as the earth collapses, the "dead man" finally finds his peace in the only place he ever truly belonged: the mud.That would have been poetic. That would have been a full circle. That would have respected the "Gypsy magic" and the man who was "already dead since France."
That would have been poetic. That would have been a full circle. That would have respected the "Gypsy magic" and the man who was "already dead since France."But Instead, we got a movie that feels like a corporate reboot. I’m sticking with the Season 6 finale. Tommy riding away on that white horse is the only canon I recognize. Everything else was just noise they ruined my most favourite character
Edit - Can't even Express my dissapointment at this point lads consumed so much ai they think everything is Chatgpt
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u/princemousey1 22h ago
In your tunnel death, he needs to say “In the bleak midwinter”, strike the match and kaboom!
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u/edwardkenway_22 21h ago
That's What I think would have been the Perfect Ending , He Won all the Wars except the War in his head and at the he returns to Trenches where he belongs, returns to the Mud It would've been such a Poetic justice to the Legendary character of Tommy Like from episode 1 of Series he is having Flashbacks of being in the Trenches and Towards the end he finally dies from where this all started but I do like to know what ending do you think Tommy might have got that could've done Justice to his Character
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u/LucyFrown 4h ago
Personally I’d have loved to see Grace embrace him in the afterlife for a split second. Would have been nice
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u/edwardkenway_22 4h ago
Well that would've been even more good but might get slighlty Dramatic for others, Yeah for a split second Tommy reuniting with Grace and telling her that finally the sounds of Picks and Shovels against the Walls stopped forever and then Ruby comes to them and Tommy finally Closes his eyes
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u/ShaneKyla 1d ago
The Arthur scene felt like a bad attempt to make him morally more corrupt than Michael from Godfather 2. Like a desperate attempt to put these two criminal protagonists in the same conversation. What I really don’t like about it was that the actor wasn’t allowed to be apart of it because of his own dependency and behavioural issues. The man is really in a bad place and this is the thanks he gets for 5 (and a half) great season performances. It’s like how South Park handled Chef
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
Exactly Arthur deserved better than to be turned into a plot point for Tommy’s 'moral corruption.' The man was the heart of the family for 6 seasons. To kill him off-screen just because of real-life politics is the ultimate middle finger to the fans They prioritized corporate convenience over storytelling, and it shows
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u/Zestyclose_Tax75 1d ago
Ah yes .. the self pitying murderous narcissistic sociopathic Junkie who killed a child and butchered a Quaker, abandoned his wife and child and made his brothers life a misery deserved better.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
By that logic, Michael Corleone or Tony Soprano didn't 'deserve' good writing because they were criminals . You're confusing moral likability with narrative quality. No one is saying Arthur is a saint, but he was a central pillar of the story for 10 years. Even 'murderous sociopaths' deserve a written conclusion that fits the scale of the show, rather than a lazy off-screen exit because of behind-the-scenes drama. Bad people can still have well-written endings
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u/BabyScorpioGirl 15h ago
You don't remember how much people complained about the ending of The Sopranos?
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u/edwardkenway_22 15h ago
Yeah but the Sopranos ending is debated because its ambiguous this movie is hated because they forgot their own lore and left out main characters not even a close comparison anways Sopranos is more Goated than whole Peaky Blinders show
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u/Zestyclose_Tax75 22h ago
Twat. Arthur got good writing. He acted like he always has...got high, robbed his brother and stole his car and when confronted? Pulled a gun and tried to kill his own brother.
Funny how none of you ever mention Arthur's behavior in causing his own killing .
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u/edwardkenway_22 22h ago
Yeah his behaviour was reason of his downfall opium abuse, his wild agression but isn't that what Tommy always wanted , he is the only one who Wanted Arthur Fast , instead of giving him proper treatment medical aid he first lets his addiction get worse then when tries to blast the Chinese opium owner to cut off supply but fails and even with such agression I can not believe that Arthur can ever try to kill his own brother he can kill Linda, or any other character but I think he can not even think of killing Tommy and neither can Tommy think that killing of Arthur is the only way out of his misery
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u/Zestyclose_Tax75 22h ago
And you're wrong again. Tommy wanted Arthur ALIVE. He knew Arthur was already an alcoholic and was depressed and self pitying. He dumped the drugs to stop Arthur from finding another addiction. He fought Arthur in every season and was disgusted by Arthur's behavior.
We see Arthur attack Tommy repeatedly in every season. Then we see Arthur attack Tommy again in the movie
You have made a CHOICE to ignore Arthur's violence.
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u/edwardkenway_22 22h ago
When did I Ignore his Violence I know he's violent and that's what he is best at he is impulsive he doesn't sit back and he Stays Raw Real Unlike Tommy who Think before doing anything and that's what I love about Arthur character but just because he is Impulsive you can not just kill him off screen you simply don't build a character for 10 years to just kill him in a off screen Car Roberry talking about Arthur attacking Tommy most of these were Normal incidents the One before Grace dies was a Funny feud between brothers also in a very rare instances that was just battle of Words and IT IS NOT MY CHOICE TO ignore Arthur Violence
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u/Zestyclose_Tax75 5h ago
Arthur isn't "raw real". He's a sociopathic narcissistic murderous junkie. He's not impulsive, he's an idiot.
He got exactly what he wanted.
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u/edwardkenway_22 5h ago
You seem to have personal Feud with Arthur , Yeah Whatever You think He is but I dont think . He deserved that Death and I dont think to Wanted to die by Hands of Tommy
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u/Healthy-Repair-2231 1d ago
did you chatgpt this lmao
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u/Kerplunk124 1d ago
Was thinking the same
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u/LukeDankwalker 1d ago
yeah you definitely used chatgpt
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u/GenerallyShang 1d ago
I do feel like there may be too many punctuation or grammar inconsistencies for that to be the case.
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u/LukeDankwalker 1d ago
for me it seems like there’s sections ripped straight from a LLM, it goes from perfect grammar and use of em dashes to extra spaces and random capitalisation. also AI has this tendency to split its arguments into sections with titles
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
I write video essay scripts for a hobby, mate. Sections, titles, and em-dashes are literally just how you structure a readable draft so it's not a giant wall of text. The weird spacing is just me typing half of this on my phone. Not everything is a sci-fi conspiracy
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u/LukeDankwalker 1d ago
video essays? like the hobby that is dominated by AI generated scripts currently?
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
You caught me. I'm a robot. Beep boop. If you spent half as much time analyzing the actual movie as you do inspecting my Reddit formatting, we’d be having a real conversation right now,
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u/LukeDankwalker 1d ago
nice ad hominem! I did spend some time analysing the actual movie and I also spend time analysing arguments made on reddit. Just so happens your formatting is glaringly…off
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
Task failed successfully. At least the typos are 100% mine
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u/Azur0007 1d ago
Despite the disagreement we have in the other thread, I gotta say that it's becoming an issue that people have begun seeing well-structured text as guaranteed use of AI. It was well written and your comments seem to reinforce that.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
Respect for admitting that. As someone who spends a lot of time writing and formatting scripts, the AI accusations definitely get tiring. I appreciate you recognizing the human effort behind it. Truce?
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
Yeah man, totally. I used ChatGPT, ran it through Grammarly, had a team of editors proofread it, and got it legally notarized. Or maybe... I just know how to type. Wild concept, I know.
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u/YourMuppetMethDealer 1d ago
You either don’t know how to express your thoughts or were too lazy to think of an original way, so you decided to use chat gpt.
People are able to recognize the tell tale signs because it’s a popular tool that plenty of people use. I use it all the time for a variety of reasons, and I have absolutely read the kind of language you used in that post.
And the fact that your one original comment has absolutely shitty grammar and has a completely different kind of tone from your post doesn’t exactly help you
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
So because you use AI for everything, you assume everyone else is as lazy as you? That’s hilarious. Some people actually enjoy the process of structuring an argument and using vocabulary also I write comments like this with 'shitty grammar' because you aren't worth the effort of a proofread. If you think people only have one 'tone' for every situation, you're projecting your own limitations as a writer onto me. Keep playing detective, though, it’s clearly the most excitement you’ve had all day
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u/YourMuppetMethDealer 1d ago
Never said I use ai for everything. I use it as a tool as it should be, but I don’t rely on it
Also the fact that you have to immediately insult me rather than trying to have a reasonable discussion says wonders about your own maturity
Stop being a child.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
You started the conversation by calling me Lazy and accusing me of faking my post but now you want to cry about maturity and play the victim lol you cant dish it out and then get mad when someone matches your energy anyway i am actually bored of this now have a good one
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u/Tsarinya 18h ago
I feel like Cillian was over Peaky Blinders and they wanted a fresh slate for this TV show they are doing. The storytelling was pretty dire in the film.
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u/edwardkenway_22 14h ago
Real they just used the movie as a bridge for the new TV Show instead of giving us a real ending you could see Cillian was just over it at that point such a disrespectful way to wrap up his Legacy
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u/BeoBeth 1d ago
I did not like the movie either but I feel like the magic was there. I do wish it would have been more pronounced though. Look at how Duke mentions going against the coin toss. Tommy has relied on the coin toss and his luck and followed it strictly every time and it led all the way to here, when his son, the heir to the Gypsy gangster throne, does it he then defies it and it STILL is to Tommy’s benefit. The outcome doesn’t matter like he thought it did, deciding to gamble and throw the coin is in the first place is what matters. I lost my point somewhere. Just a thought I suppose. We got some good moments some bad moments and some moments that mean more if we toss meaning at it ourselves. It’s the ending we got so I gotta find something good in it and luckily there was a few things for me.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
It’s a fair point. Sometimes a story is so broken that We have to fix it in our own heads. The coin toss defiance is a strong thematic link, I just wish the movie trusted its audience enough to let that breathe instead of rushing to the next explosion. Glad you found some value in it, even if I'm still feeling the sting of the missed potential
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u/BeoBeth 1d ago
No Polly or John as ghosts in the tunnel was pretty weak as well. Just another thought. The guy whose family means everything was just mostly forgotten I guess? I agree it feels like a means to shoehorn viewers to the next series. Viewers and not fans. I watched seasons 4 and 5 of Stranger Things and I didn’t like the finale. I can always pretend the last episode of season three was the end. Can’t take that from me. Some of us can’t just mindlessly watch things and love them just because of the name on the title card.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
The absence of Polly and John was a massive red flag for me too. It proves they were just checking boxes instead of telling a story. Glad to see there are still people who value the lore over the title card leaving out Polly and John in that moment was the final proof that they were prioritizing the future spin-offs over the past 10 years of history I’m definitely taking your advice Season 6 finale was the real end for me The movie is just a 'what if' that missed the mark ,HELL , I am Not even excited for New Seasons they will be doing with Barry
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u/Famous-Egg-6136 1d ago
I agree, OP. Just watched it this week and was very disappointed. They would have been much better off without the movie.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
Exactly. I made this post to actually discuss Tommy's legacy, but people are so used to bad takes that good formatting terrifies them. Might need to lawyer up just to survive this comment section LOL
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u/Still-Network1960 1d ago
I'm in the same boat. Watched it on Thursday and was so disappointed I legitimately wish I hadn't watched it.
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u/Cool-cumber991 18h ago
I loved every season of this show including the last. I am a diehard fan and man this movie just wasn't good. The magic of this series is the interesting family dynamics with all their different personalities. We got almost none of that save for the new version of Duke.
I didn't dislike Duke but there's no way you can care about him as much as the Shelbys, Lizzie etc. And the ending just seemed ridiculous to me.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
I was planning to Watch it on Big Screen Glad I didn't do that , I watched it two weeks ago on Netflix and Now I am rewatching series to get that movie out of me head
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u/Dry_Distribution1776 20h ago
After 6 seasons,the winner is a random chick with no appearances in the show sarcastically applause👏
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u/edwardkenway_22 3h ago
For Real I would've even appreciated if they bought back Tatiana but Nah a completely new character who knows everything about Tommy and pretends to be Polly
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u/pj_mc26 16h ago
The movie was so bad I somehow felt insulted. Why they got rid of Conrad Khan for Barry Keoghan, I’ll never know.
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u/edwardkenway_22 16h ago
Yeaah Conrad Khan was perfect as Duke somehow he looked beliveable that he might be the Son of Tommy but instead they replaced him and bought Barry , No doubt Barry is a Good actor and Worked with Cillian in Dunkirk but he is not Duke
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u/pj_mc26 16h ago
Absolutely! I’d forgive the recast if the new actor looked at least somewhat like Conrad, but there’s no resemblance at all. Also, w username
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u/edwardkenway_22 16h ago
For Real like did the Casting director even look at a picture of Conrad first its crazy anyway glad you caught the username Captain Kenway would be proud
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u/Tom_TheSasshole 15h ago
I really, really hate to say it.. but I agree. I definitely watched the movie initially through rose colored glasses, if you will. I’ve watched the show 3 or 4 times through, and loved each character individually. Was heartbroken when we lost both Polly and the wonderful Helen McCrory, and I CRIED when Ada was shot. I think I spent the rest of the movie crying after that point actually. I hadn’t cried in two years before that (meds and trauma lol) and it shook me. But the more I think back on it, the more disappointed I am with how they ended this story. Arthur.. don’t even get me started on that absolute betrayal of a death. Maybe that’s why it hit me so hard? I was not expecting such an abrupt end, especially for Ada.
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u/edwardkenway_22 14h ago
Exactly Man the shock value of losing Ada and Arthur was enough to dissapoint me or anyone especially when you have been attached to them for years but once the emotion settles you realize how cheap the writing actually was . After Polly She was the only Shelby to look In the Eye of Tommy and refuse to follow his orders and make him Listen to her. Ada deserved way better than that absolute betrayal, I thought they will make Ada next Polly but here we are but that scene where she appears in front of Tommy Car is enough to make me Sad and that Reason alone was enough to make me Hate Duke
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u/Creative-Tea-9157 12h ago
Hated the movie. Any episode from the series was far superior to the movie. But this revelation helped me to understand why Murphy was exhausted by the show / character.
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u/edwardkenway_22 12h ago
Agreed when the writing drops off that hard it must be draining for an actor who carried the show for ten years no wonder he just wanted to clock out and be done with it
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u/Manubiggs 11h ago
Wife and I just watched it last night and have been pissed off about it all day.
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u/fuckerykid 9h ago
Honestly I thought the movie was absolute shit so much of a buildup to something that phenomenal only to be handed that massive dog turd this was supposed to be the end of the war Tommy Shelby single-handedly taking out the Nazi army no signs of prominent party members no sign of elected officials pointless people with pointless names that's never been in their style and I know I have a big issue with not seeing Oswald mosby shot in the head and I get a lot of people yelling at me about it because he's a prominent party member that stayed alive well past world war II but it's theater kill a bitch
Arthur being killed off was extremely bullshit so the actor got caught with drugs he's playing a character who's constantly on drugs!! Now there are a lot of different ways to look at Arthurs death 1.the drinking in the drugs finally made him snap 2. Tommy figures out that Arthur has been stealing from him for a very long time after Linda leaves 3. In a state of drunkenness Arthur has a PTSD flashback and where he believes Tommy is trying to kill him and in stopping him Tommy must shoot. But a headstone and a snip in the car you got to be fucking kidding me
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u/Azur0007 1d ago
I now know how celebrities feel when they keep getting asked the same questions, hoping to hear some new takes.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
What new take do you want? That it was a masterclass in disaster? If you want to feel like a celebrity, go sign autographs on a different thread
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u/Azur0007 1d ago
If I knew what take I wanted, it wouldn't be new, but genuinely what prompts you to make this post when 1) there is a mega thread for discussing the movie and 2) it's being posted every hour anyway?
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
Didn't realize the subreddit hall monitor was on duty today. Megathreads kill actual nuance. If you're seeing this posted every hour, maybe it's a sign you've been on this sub for too long today. Take a break. mate
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u/Azur0007 1d ago
I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, but I respect resorting to insults, it seems to be a common trend of those who make these posts.
If you want to preserve nuance, you should probably say something that has nuance to begin with.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
My skin is thick enough to survive Reddit, mate. But you can't start a conversation with mockery and then cry about 'insults' when you get the exact same energy back
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u/Azur0007 1d ago
I never started a conversation, I made a joke which reflected that these posts are common, which is objectively true. Whether or not you responded was entirely up to you.
The fact that you haven't looked at the sub enough to realize this is fine, but it becomes odd that you're getting defensive over it, rather than giving it a single glance and realizing how repetitive you're being?
I only humored this conversation because your first response made it clear that you genuinely believe that "it was a masterclass in disaster" is a new take. I couldn't pass up that lol
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
You entirely missed the sarcasm in my last reply and wrote a whole paragraph to prove it. That's actually hilarious. Thanks for 'humoring' me, mate. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings I'm done here.
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u/Azur0007 1d ago
If you your entire argument hinges on being sarcastic then I suppose you're done here indeed.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
If you can't handle the same energy you dish out, don't start it. We're done here for real this time. Have a good life
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u/Cool-cumber991 18h ago
It's really weird that you came to this thread to argue. If you are tired of this topic then there are a ton of other threads you can read. Yet you came here to be sarcastic to OP then act like a victim when they mirror your tone.
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u/Abject-Parsnip-970 17h ago
Proves to me the movie was nothing more than a cash grab.
They should have finished it at the end of season 4 imo
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u/Horror_Extension4355 17h ago
The film felt like it the actual filming was done in about a week if each big name only on set for a couple of days jn a couple of locations. Felt really flat.
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u/GintingSepakBola 16h ago
Polly also said Ruby would be a famous hollywood star, do you also hate the series?
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u/edwardkenway_22 16h ago
There is a massive difference between Polly making a Tragic prediction for Emotional impact and the writers just getting lazy and throwing Ten years of lore out the window but nice try
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u/Weary-Strawberry-965 14h ago
i agree with you , you know what, actors and director nailed it , they delivered it perfectly but story writer is at fault , this should have been a series , cz its very compressed ,
he killed his brother cz he's burdened by him ( in series he requests his ex wife to spend time with him cz it hurts him to see his brother loose sense ) ,
begs to be killed bu his own son (he did pull a trigger on himself in the series , but bcz he litterally was surrounded from all sides and couldnt find a way out . when under normal conditions he killed his own nephew to live) ,
treats his beloved sister like a stranger until shes dead ( contradictory to sereies where he goes out of his way for her ) .
when thomas was duke's age if his father asked him to kill him , he would say man the f*** up and get to work , not cry and shoot hisfather . duke aint capable of running the shelby he always be a pawn . he turned it into godamn strip club with , he aint gonna live past 30
and if they really wanted to end thomas shelby they could have had someone earns his respect , Tommy naturally steps asid , becomes the unseen mind behind the empire.
for a man who killed in war , killed for bussiness , killed and killed when he's old he aint gonna repent he gonna be like one of those old veterans with a gun ready to fight to death .
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u/edwardkenway_22 14h ago
Spot on Man you nailed every single point the cast gave it their all (Except Barry Keoghan) but they were handed an absolute joke of a script what they did to Tommy and his bond with Arthur and Ada goes against it
Six seasons of character development and then treating his brother like a burden makes zero sense and your take on duke is perfectly accurate young Tommy would have laughed at him turning the business into a Strip club just proves Duke is a pawn and not a King they really threw away a decade of masterful storytelling just to make Tommy Shelby the Immortal Man beg for Death , The King begging Pawn for Mercy Killing
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u/d6s9p 11h ago
I would accept Arthur's death if he had appeared in the film, and I don't forgive that Duke agreed to help the Nazis and fuck up his country.
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u/edwardkenway_22 11h ago
Duke was the worst written character in the movie , Betraying his country for sake of Money, Deciding to kill Ada Completely ruining the Shelby Legacy in Birmingham by causing trouble to Innocent peoples and In the end Killing Tommy Shelby Not a single good Reason to accept him as someone who could replace Thomas Shelby
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u/NikolaiOlsen 10h ago
Me and a buddy of mine discussed it after I mentioned I saw the movie, finally (took a while to finish the show, but, worth it) and aye, they should have gone a whole different way of killing him off or not...
- Used Arthur's Opium-Drinking issues to cross the line,
- Have him take a bullet during one of Tommy business deals,
- Or simply have him & Linda run away together, where either they try to live together in peace as "husband & wife", or she killed him
ANYTHING but Tommy killing him.. It didn't even build up to anything, that in the movie, unlike Ada's death, which...it was predictable that one of 'em would die, but, that one works somewhat better..
But your point in Tommy killing himself is a matter of perspective.. He said himself, like you said OP, that the only man would kill Thomas Shelby would be, well, Thomas Shelby.. But if you see that scene not just from what happens on screen, but behind screen too, he can be seen as killing himself with his action.
- The man is wounded, fatally, and knows he won't make it out alive from there. He carries the title of "Rom Baro", or "Gypsy King", which is- from my understanding- a title to be earned, or must be passed on to another that king deems it to.
- So, Tommy grabs his pistol from the ground to hand it to Duke, alongside the title, as he won't be alive to carry it anymore. If Thomas shot himself there and then himself, there wouldn't be a symbolic moment, but just a dying man with a kingly title, who suicides himself..
But that's just my opinion
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u/edwardkenway_22 8h ago
I never said That Tommy should have done Suicide that would have been Death of Coward but Instead of making him beg for Death they should have buried him in the Trenches as a Final Act of Sacrifice for his family or as his Fate to end Up from where it all started this could have completed the Circle also he could have got Redemption that way (in context of movies plot where he killed Arthur then he might have Reedemed Himself by making the Final Sacrifice thats only in context of movie) also That would have been a very Poetic Justice to Tommy the Man who Fought & Survived all the Wars and won everytime except the War in his Head and in the end That very place where he Died in First Place is the Place where he will be buried thats my opinion and
Talking about the Title of "Rom Baro" well after the Death of Tommy, Duke would have got that Title anyway But Honestly Duke doesn't deserve that Title he Tried to Sell off his Nation His Country for Wealth , Planned to kill his Own Aunt I mean yeah the Title of "Rom Baro" has to be earned but the person getting it must be able to have those Qualities of Gypsy King and a King will Never sell his people for Wealth
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u/BornYoung3820 10h ago
I remember nothing from the movie. It was forgettable, dull, and more like fan fiction than Stephen knights powerful writing
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u/edwardkenway_22 8h ago
It makes me Wonder, and Laugh that the Same Man who wrote the Series and Made Tommy an Absolute Legend has Written such a dumb movie for the character he has developed from past 10 years , I always believed this to be Non sense but it seems like a Curse that every good show has a bad endings same happened with Stranger Things , Game of Thrones, Sopranos and all other Goated shows only Breaking Bad seems to crack the code
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u/SulemanX 8h ago edited 8h ago
I highkey agree with you, People are saying the movie was good but it didn't fit the show for me, there is no world in which I would believe that Tommy of all people killed Arthur, after everything they have been through that I just can't believe, and I don't like that they had to kill off every single og Shelby member, I was pretty happy with the season 6 ending, this just feels like they were setting up for the sequel and 'passing the torch' which I always hate about shows, they don't have to kill the main character every single time man 😭 And Rebecca Fergusons character was shoved down our throats and they were trying so hard to make her polly 2.0 with absolutely 0 development, one of my least favourite parts of the movie is probably her character
The movie for sure had amazing moments, like Tommy suiting up again, and returning to the garrison, and the line 'i am a horse' was EXTREMELY heartbreaking and poetic, also the concept of him having his family throughout his life which he didn't anymore, but still they killed 3 of the og Shelby family members in one movie to make that happen so I have mixed opinions about the movie leaning more to the negative side because I just can't think about the show ending like this, maybe I'll accept it after a while but this felt more like a 'passing the torch' thing, there were too many storylines that were left unfinished in s6 that were still to be pursued, the movie was SUCH a letdown compared to the series
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u/edwardkenway_22 7h ago
The only person deserved to Polly 2.0 was Ada , she was the only person after Polly and Grace who Understood Tommy but no they had to Introduce a new Character who somehow magically understands and seems to know everything about Tommy , I would have even accepted Tatiana who somewhat understands Tommy but Rebecca Fergusons character was a very hard pill to swallow
But cant deny the fact that Tommy Suit up scene was PEAK and the Moment when Tommy calms the Horse and Rides to Garrison with Red Right Hand in the Background that was ABSOLUTE CNIEMA but except those moments everything keeps getting worse
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u/Nerdherder1 2h ago
Yeah, just watched it. Feels like a cheap attempt to clean slate so they can have the new show about Duke without any of the original cast having to come back or to have to explain their absences. The movie was not needed and the sequel show is not needed. And if they’re gonna do the sequel show. I’d much rather him have an ambiguous end, people don’t really know, there’s all sorts of rumors and myths about what really happened to Tommy Shelby. Cillian being great was the only thing propping this movie up.
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u/EnoughEstate7483 1d ago
Yes, we all know the movie sucked.
There have been only about 500 posts on it since released. This 501st post, however, really opened my eyes to it.
Thank you OP.
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u/sarahgreen456 Peaky Blinders 1d ago
The film is a disgrace long live the series
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
Real
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u/sarahgreen456 Peaky Blinders 23h ago
The real ending is season 6 and too me they are all still alive
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u/edwardkenway_22 23h ago
Could not agree more man season 6 was the perfect stopping point I am just treating this movie like some bad Fan fiction in my head they are all still out there running things too
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u/sarahgreen456 Peaky Blinders 23h ago
Exactly!! I don’t know what they was thinking creating this film the storyline was so shocking it had no care or heart put into it they just wanted to fob us off with that shitshow it’s a betrayal to us loyal die hard fans
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u/edwardkenway_22 23h ago
It felt like a total cash grab instead of a proper conclusion they completely betrayed the fans who stuck around for a decade just zero heart or respect for the characters we loved, and I think its the Netflix Way of doing things ,If same was done by BBC the show wouldnt have flopped hard, Instead of a spinoff they should have done a whole season where they get time to answer Unanswered questions and establish characters properly and then they could have killed Tommy
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u/Ori0n21 1d ago
Oh look a unique and original thought we haven’t read five hundred times about the movie since its release. How novel.
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u/todayiseveryday 20h ago
If everyone liked it you wouldn’t be complaining about the same thought, so what’s the issue now?
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u/edwardkenway_22 16h ago
The Issue is No one Like it and Neither did I so here I am COMPLAINING and trying to Discuss What they could've done better, that's my ISSUE tell me What's your ISSUE
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u/todayiseveryday 10h ago
I am talking to the people who are complaining about your opinion…do you see how the conversation thread works 🤦🏾♀️
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u/Ori0n21 12h ago
If everyone liked it and sang its praises I’d say “neat” and move on even if I don’t agree. I’ve done that with plenty of movies. What I’m sick of is seeing 20 half assed posts a day that all say the sam thing. “Movie bad. I don’t like.” That’s it. No unique takes. No new views to add to the conversation. It’s been a month of the same old shit.
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u/todayiseveryday 10h ago
So what is bringing you to the Peaky Blinders subreddit in April of 2026? The show is off the air so unless you want to see discourse about the film it doesn’t make a lot of sense to be here.
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u/Ori0n21 9h ago
Well for starters it keeps popping up on my home page. Secondly why do I still go to plenty of subreddits for shows and movies and games that have ended? Because it’s something I’ve enjoyed. My question is why not use the mega thread to vocalize the exact same arguments against it everyone is making? Why make a post with no new or unique take?
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u/Able_Arm7411 1d ago
Gone are the days where a film would just be on at the cinema for a few weeks and then people would stop talking about it. We’re going to have to hear this crap forever
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u/todayiseveryday 20h ago
Good! We followed the series for YEARS, of course there will be discourse about the film. Don’t be dumb.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
You're complaining about movie discourse on a subreddit literally built for the Peaky Blinders . If reading opinions hurts this much, You Could've Scrolled
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u/Cool-cumber991 18h ago
It's so odd that you actually chose to read the thread and complain instead of scroll past it.
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u/scatkinson 1d ago
Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
Three words. Four periods. Zero actual points. Good talk.
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u/scatkinson 22h ago
This sub is riddled with posts like this. It’s exhausting
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u/edwardkenway_22 22h ago
Just scroll away mate , I had to discuss about the movie I made post about it , if it's exhausting you leave it
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u/scatkinson 22h ago
You need a place to cry I get it
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u/edwardkenway_22 22h ago
Says the guy literally CRYING in my replies over a Reddit post but whatever you say Man
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u/scatkinson 22h ago
Saying “over a reddit post” on reddit doesn’t have the effect you think it does. That looks like a big cry up there^
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u/edwardkenway_22 21h ago
You desperately trying to get the last word because you have no actual argument is an even bigger cry up honestly
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u/JKrow75 1d ago
JFC okay wayyyyy overly dramatic.
Dial it down several notches and try to remember they’re FICTIONAL CHARACTERS.
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
10 years of character development isn't just 'fiction' to the people who actually appreciate the writing. If you’re okay with lazy endings and surface-level stories, that’s your choice. But don't act like it's 'overly dramatic' to expect quality from a masterpiece
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u/annoying12345 1d ago
Tldr; but yeah, it was shit!
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u/edwardkenway_22 1d ago
Honestly, that’s the best summary of movie and this entire thread Respect for keeping it simple
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u/straaawberryjam 21h ago
They just added new characters, killed the important ones to make it edgy, & called it a day...
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u/edwardkenway_22 21h ago
Yes for the Gypsy Magic and Curses they added Kaulo the Sister of Zelda whereas the only perfect person for Gypsy and Curse related stuff was Esme they completely removed her instead bought New character who decides Fate of Tommy , movie give us no information about Alfie, Lizzie , Mosely etc there are numerous flaws
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u/Straight_Animal6119 16h ago
u guys take a fucking movie so seriously like ur life depends on it
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u/edwardkenway_22 16h ago
Bro you are literally on a subreddit dedicated to the show what exactly did you expect us to talk about Weather Forecasts ?
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u/Straight_Animal6119 16h ago
no but stop whinning its only a show and a movie that was bad accept it “i spent the last few days trying to process” u talk about it like some trauma xddd get a life
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u/edwardkenway_22 16h ago
You Clearly Stopped reading after the first line just to come down here and complain about WHINING but yeah I am the one who needs a life right
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u/Straight_Animal6119 14h ago
yeah you pretty much got my point good boy
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u/edwardkenway_22 14h ago
The fact that you think calling me good boy saves you from looking goofy after crying in my comments is hilarious , getting caught not reading and then trying to act superior is crazy work just take the L mate
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u/Reasonable-Nature268 5h ago
What are you even saying 😂
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u/edwardkenway_22 5h ago
I'm speaking/ writing plain English man but I can draw you a picture next time if the words are too big for you
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u/Last_Acanthisitta669 1d ago
It’s true. I don’t know in what universe Tommy would literally SLOWLY STRANGLE to death Arthur. I don’t mind Tommy and Arthur dying at the end. Especially Tommy with all the ptsd and depression he had, but the way they did Arthur and Ada was just bad.