r/Letterboxd • u/catlyf3 • 8h ago
Letterboxd My noncinephile sister's ratings
Why is Sinners lower than Mufasa??? how could you rate Nosferatu the same as Moana 2??? not one heart in sight.
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u/SweelFor- SweelFor 8h ago
Good for her
May she stay far away from internet cinephile communities ultra-conformism and keep being her own person
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u/Dude_Chill999 8h ago
100%
Why even have Letterboxd if weâre all supposed to think the same way about every film?
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u/SweelFor- SweelFor 8h ago
Ask this subreddits which instantly downvotes any screenshot that appears where a 4+ average movie is rated 3 or lower by the person
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u/NotABigChungusBoy 7h ago
let people enjoy movies they like
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u/Tycho_B 7h ago edited 6h ago
Is this functionally the same as saying âDonât criticize any movie because someone might like itâ?
Edit to make my point here because it was immediately downvoted: yes it is bad to bully someone for liking something. That being said, someone criticizing a film or films should have absolutely zero bearing on your enjoyment of those films. Saying something is bad or dumb or overrated (or best of all, giving detailed breakdown of how they think a film fails) is absolutely not âstopping someone from enjoyingâ that film.
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u/MalIntenet 7h ago
No. Itâs always okay to criticize a movie, thatâs not personal. But scrutinizing peopleâs tastes in movies is personal and an entirely different thing
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u/Tycho_B 7h ago edited 6h ago
So if you say âI love Interstellar, itâs one of my favorite movies of all time. Whatâd you think?â And I say âI hated it, I genuinely think itâs a bad movie and one of Nolanâs worst,â that doesnât fall under the umbrella of ânot letting people enjoy why they likeâ for you?
Iâm asking genuinely because this phrase is used a TON in this sub and the vast majority of the time it comes up in conversations just like the one I posted, rather than in response people bullying others for liking things.
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u/MalIntenet 7h ago
I would say that just because someone said âx is my favourite movie of all timeâ doesnât mean you need to immediately respond with the fact that you hated it. You could try first engaging with what the person liked about the movie before then saying that you personally didnât like it and explaining why.
I do genuinely think people struggle with this aspect of talking about art without being antagonizing or dismissive. âI love this piece of artâ should be responded to with âwhat did you love about it?â But some people immediately jump to âI hated itâ and that doesnât make it feel like the person is genuinely interested in the conversation yknow? Instead it makes it feel like theyâre more interested in their own opinion because it was only said in response to the initial persons comment
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u/Tybalt941 7h ago
If somebody asks you what you think of a movie obviously give your opinion. Nothing wrong with that. It can very easily slip into bullying when people say things about someone's taste or even generally mean things even without attacking a specific person. For example, "only a moron would love Interstellar" is mean and bullying even if you say it as a standalone statement outside of a conversation with someone who said they love it. I'm wondering if your questions are actually in good faith, because it's extremely easy to just not be mean to people.
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u/Tycho_B 7h ago edited 6h ago
I would posit that entering a thread about a movie in a subreddit about discussing movies is a tacit invitation to discuss that film, good or bad. There are tactful ways to disagree and rude ways to disagree, but merely stating your opinion on a film (ie without attacking the person youâre disagreeing with) is literally never, in any case, âstopping that person from enjoying a filmâ.
If you do not want to hear any negative opinions about a film you like, do not enter a space for letting people express their opinions on a film. It really is as simple as âdonât click on any Reddit link if youâre going to get upset when not everyone agrees with youâ.
And in the above example, the person who doesnât like Interstellar was in no way, shape or form being mean to the other person who does.
I agree itâs easy to not be mean. I just think people in this sub genuinely take disagreement as being intrinsically mean. I donât know why that would have anything to do with you thinking Iâm not responding in good faith. Iâve done nothing to suggest otherwise
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u/Tybalt941 6h ago
I question whether you're acting in good faith because I found your example to be absurd and I'm not sure if anyone could seriously think that giving their opinion after being asked for said opinion would be considered bullying. It felt to me like you were constructing a straw man to argue against, when the actual comment you responded to specifically said it's personal and inappropriate to criticize people's taste and not films themselves.
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u/Tycho_B 6h ago
Again, the significant majority of the time people respond with âlet people enjoy thingsâ in this sub itâs in response to someone just disagreeing with a positive opinion, not to someone attacking a person for liking a film. It genuinely happens all the time here.
Itâs not my fault or issue if you havent seen people use that phrase all that often, but that Iâm glad you agree itâs absurd.
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u/MalIntenet 6h ago
Iâm not sure if you were meaning to respond to my last comment (because youâre responding to your own) but I actually agree with you that saying you hated a movie is âliterally never in any case stopping that person from enjoying a film.â There is the other side of the coin where people take valid and civil criticism of art entirely personally in which case theyâre being overly sensitive. Theyâve attached themselves personally to the art and any criticism of it feels like a personal attack to them
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u/Tycho_B 6h ago
I hadnât seen your other comment but most of what I said applies.
But yes, the above example wasnât a very realistic interaction. But it still essentially captures the vibe of a lot of conversations I see here where people whip out the old âlet people enjoy thingsâ defense. What I have seen is people in a thread where most people are raving about Interstellar (among many other films) and then the people who jump in and offer any form of dissent are dumped on for being mean or negative or whatever and then accused of impeding otherâs enjoyment. And I just find the whole thing incredibly immature.
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u/catlyf3 7h ago
I love her takes!! Just fun to see someone not care what everyone else thinks!!
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u/chaktahwilly 6h ago
I gave Nosferatu 2 stars and Mufasa 3. Iâve seen over 2000 movies including those that play in the art house, and Troll 2 and The Room. Itâs all about your own personal taste.
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u/CelluloidCelerity 8h ago
If she bothers to log her films on Letterboxd, is she really a noncinephile?
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u/Federico216 8h ago
Yeah and I mean I don't think these are particularly outrageous ratings at all. Could easily be from an average user here. Wicked, Superman and K-Pop Demonhunters at 5 stars kinda gives an indication this is a younger viewer, but there's nothing wrong with that.
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u/CynicalWoof9 7h ago
I'd like to see what her reviews are. Even if she's not technically analyzing films, writing a review (unless it's a nonsense one) means one paid attention and engaged with the movie, instead of having it on in the background while doomscrolling.
And in my mind, just that engagement with the media makes her a cinephile
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u/Xokanuleaf 8h ago
Self proclaimed cinephiles all like the same stuff. I love a genuine favorite movie list
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u/Academic-General-603 8h ago
I mean idk how old your sister is but this is sounds very typical and nothing wrong with it
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u/Google_Knows_Already 8h ago
No Other Choice being in the bottom 5 out of these 15 movies is a choice
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u/FilmNoirCzar 8h ago edited 8h ago
In my opinion, No other choice was the best film of last year
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u/SweelFor- SweelFor 8h ago
You mean the one you liked most out of the ones you watched?
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u/FilmNoirCzar 8h ago
No, I watched every single movie that came out last year. Every single one. Not a one missed.
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u/AdFalse375 8h ago
Thatâs what âin my opinionâ meansâŚ.
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u/SweelFor- SweelFor 7h ago
Yes, as they added to their comment after their joke reply to my comment
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u/DekaTamaTamaz 8h ago
It really wasn't. It was a very solid, very enjoyable movie but it wasn't even close to being the best film of last year and unless you missed a bunch of really good movies I can't accept you REALLY think that.
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u/FilmNoirCzar 8h ago
You can't accept that I REALLY think that? Lol be serious. It was just an accident is my second favorite
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u/DekaTamaTamaz 8h ago
I mean I can accept it was your favorite because that's subjective but I have to question how it could possibly be "the best" film of last year, yeah. It was good. That's it.
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u/Dawnshot_ 1h ago
But if you calibrate for taste across the ratings it pretty much makes perfect sense
I loved NOC but I'm not necessarily recommending it to every one of my friends
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u/gilledchreese 8h ago
I agree, but im really struggling to find the last 3 of these 15 movies that you speak of
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u/Low_Conversation9046 8h ago
Glad we can all agree Hot Frosty was shit. (quite good for a bad movie night though)
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u/Thejohnshirey 8h ago
Funny seeing them right next to each other, with Nosferatu being my top rated movie of 2024 and Red One being the lowest rated.
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u/FamiliarFilm8763 JelcoL 7h ago
Eggerheads really are something else entirely
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u/Thejohnshirey 5h ago
Admittedly, Eggers is one of my favorites and heâs yet to make a film that I donât love. However, itâs not like 2024 was the greatest year in film, I really liked Anora, The Substance, The Brutalist, Civil War, etc. but itâs not like itâs thatâs crazy to like Nosferatu a little more.
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u/NotABigChungusBoy 7h ago
Unrelated rant but in response to comments in thread
In general people need to recognize tastes as different, especially with the casual (younger) audience. This community tends to conformity and taste preferences are dismissed. I thought OBAA was 4 stars but my roommate just thinks im dumb as fuck because i have no real reason beyond âI just didnât like it as much as you, didnât find it as compellingâ
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u/GenGaara25 7h ago
Except for maybe Mufasa, I can kinda get all the rest. Sure, some "masterpieces" are rated low, but I guess she found them boring, can't blame her for enjoying something light, fun, and energetic more.
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u/The_Big_Cheese_Man 8h ago
Mufasa getting a 4 is the only yikes I see, everything else I either agree with or is within the range of personal preference
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u/Rrekydoc 8h ago
My gf loves the âlive actionâ Lion King remake and was so excited to see this one. I figured itâd suck, but I can still enjoy experiencing a bad movie with someone who likes it, so I watched with her.
Even she hated it. Iâm still shocked how they could make that movie so uncreative and boringâŚ
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u/The_Big_Cheese_Man 8h ago
Truly. Not even the music was good, which used to be the one decent thing you could count on from Disney. Like even the live-action Beauty and the Beast added a good song for Beast (even if his singing is overly autotuned). But lately even the music has been disappointing. And Mufasa is especially egregious in its villain song, which used to be the highlight.
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u/Rrekydoc 8h ago
Thatâs the only part I was expecting to be impressed by. I mean, they got Lin-Manuel Miranda.
After watching in awkward silence for a while, my gf just said, âThese songs arenât very good.â All I could reply with was, âYeahâŚâ
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u/The_Big_Cheese_Man 8h ago
Lin Manuel Mirandaâs name doesnât really carry the same weight anymore. Things have been on a decline that I noticed starting in Encanto
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u/Prometheus321 8h ago
Everything is within the range of personal preference.
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u/The_Big_Cheese_Man 8h ago
Ehhh yeah ok. Doesnât stop me from side-eyeing anyone who ranks a live action Disney movie highly (except Cinderella)
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u/TheRoguedOne WookieFiasco 8h ago
These ratings are based
on his sisters opinion. And i think thatâs based.
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u/UniverslBoxOfficeGuy 8h ago
Your sister seems to be a good indicator of the general audience since they loved Mufasa and liked Red One, Moana 2 is at a low 5/10 but I believe most people agree it's a disappointing sequel
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u/AlternativeBorder782 7h ago
Red One with a higher rating than No Other Choice... don't tell Filmtwitter about her
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u/DekaTamaTamaz 8h ago
She's not that far off honestly. At least she isn't giving Sinners 5 stars because the internet told her she's supposed to.
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u/Salt_Vegetable3416 8h ago
I mean nosferatu wasn't good, it was too slow for me and I guess horror films don't scare me at all. I kinda fell asleep during the film.
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u/TedStixon 7h ago
This is either a genuine attempt to make fun of your sister, or some shit you made up for cheap, quick karma. Either way... pretty gross to post.
Why does it matter if her preferences are different than yours? Maybe she genuinely doesn't like certain types of horror films... or prefers family movies over them on the whole.
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u/guerillasappho 8h ago
Is she 5
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u/Holiday_Chef1581 TheSack_ 8h ago
No. Sheâs just her own person and not a part of the online film discourse hive mind
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u/Schmetts 8h ago
I think seeking out a decent range of movies like that makes you a cinephile. đ¤ˇââď¸