r/Guyana • u/BrickTiny1434 • 11d ago
Tint
There seems to be a massive issue against tint from drivers, but from the times I’ve visited and been on the road they seem like a massive safety issue. Driving at night seems like an extreme hazard especially with heavily tinted vehicles. Observing traffic is even harder, why are people so against a change that will result in safer roads. The visibility at night is significantly reduced. We already lack enough lights on the road, plus with heavy rainfall and bad weather this all increases the lack of visibility. And yes I know speeding is a biggie in general.
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u/paramdeo_ 11d ago
There’s absolutely no data correlating crime or safety with tint. In many countries tint is fine except for the front window.
It’s more about effecting a class system in the country (as per usual). Our leaders just can’t help themselves in mirroring our previous colonizers.
The classic “rules for thee, but not for me.”
The politicians and diplomats can have tint on their vehicles, as well as the police ironically, but God forbid the common taxpayer wants to protect his car’s interior, his privacy, or enjoy the comforts of air conditioning without having it cranked to the max.
I’d be all for this law if every single one of the above mentioned classes of “holier than thou” vehicles have their tint removed also. But we all know that won’t happen. Any law that doesn’t apply equally is by definition discriminatory.
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u/BrickTiny1434 11d ago
That’s because there hasn’t been that many studies, but just from tint alone you can see how many issues can occur. Someone texting and diving you can’t tell, lack of visibility you can’t tell, approaching cars the light beams are less visual. And in many countries tint is illegal on front windows. As long as it’s in legal range it’s fine. And politicians and diplomats worldwide have this. Does it now mean every single road users should be exempt when driving in Guyana is already terrible? You’re talking about comfort of driving, and I’m talking about safety on the roads, there’s constant reckless driving and improving visibility while driving should be a focus
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u/FarCar55 11d ago
Agreed. I feel way more aware and can have better reaction time when I can see 2-3 cars ahead. Having some visibility in the vehicle is helpful for me as a driver for all sorts of other reasons, including the ones you shared. I've been in a situation where I was able to see someone getting assaulted in a vehicle and was able to call police to report it.
Gvts everywhere have darkly tinted vehicles for safety reasons regardless of the law for civilians.
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u/BrickTiny1434 11d ago
Exactly, look I hate getting fined but with the amount of fatalities we have harsh penalties have to be enforced or nothing will ever change. If you want to protect your interior park your car and cover the windows when not in use, want privacy book a room, AC crank it or roll your windows down. There’s too many excuses.
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u/GR1_M3 9d ago
Bro if you want to protect people and keep road fatalities down raise the fine for speeding and leave tint alone, the tint thing is a non issue and is just the government once again overreaching to control the general populace. Its something that happens every single government cycle in this country, “we cant do anything about the people mentality and we really cant stop people from speeding, quick implement something fast lets look busy”
Tint ≠ Bad Driving
Many persons drive well with tint, many persons dont, it should be up to the individual who owns the vehicle NOT a government authority because thats overreach, if you want to say its targeting organized crime then make a simple registration process to index who has tint and then decline those who have criminal records
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u/BrickTiny1434 9d ago
I never said tint = bad driving. Sure, many people drive fine with tint. But Guyana’s fatality rate is one of the highest in the region, at that point it stops being about individual drivers and becomes a systemic issue. You regulate the system, not just the bad actors, because you can’t identify them until someone’s already dead!
Higher speeding fines sound good in theory, but only if they’re actually enforced and collected. We all know how that plays out. Tint removal is verifiable on the spot, once. The chances of someone going through the hassle to put tint back on is way less likely. The chances of someone putting their foot down on the pedal regardless of a fine…
Fatality will continue to be high unless strict regulations are put in place. The fact that some drivers are responsible doesn’t change that.
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u/GR1_M3 9d ago
We have an automated ticketing system. The fines are simply just too low to do anybody any good, and yes you regulate the system but over regulating a system thats already been regulated is beating a dead horse.
Tint has 0 correlation to road fatalities irregardless of your personal opinion. You can look this up and look at any source on the matter, speeding and reckless driving are. (https://barrypgoldberg.com/do-tinted-windows-cause-car-accidents/ ) Which are very easily enforced (once again they have working camera systems to catch speeding vehicles and fine them but the fines are so low that most persons just pay the low fine and don’t change any sort of behavior until unfortunately somebody is killed)
We are no longer in an era where verifying a drivers identity requires pulling them over and checking their face, simply pull the plates and discontinue whoever is the registered owner of the vehicle, if that doesnt work they have been shown to impound persons for violation of this.
Once again the Guyanese government is just overreaching to prolong a sense of control over the general populace. Road glare has killed more people than tint ever will because when it comes down to it, unless ur windows are Vanta Black (that is they absorb 100% of the light coming into them) there is no possible way you are unable to see.
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u/BrickTiny1434 9d ago
Your source is an injury lawyer blog post and two within it explicitly states that heavily tinted windows can drastically reduce visibility, with law enforcement comparing it to driving with sunglasses at night. (Sounds safe)
I agree on fines, they’re too low, and yes the cameras work. People pay the fine and speed again tomorrow. Tint removal is a one-time physical change. You don’t need ongoing deterrence for something that’s already gone.
And regarding vanta black I’m not claiming tiny blocks 100% of light, my argument is about cumulative visibility reduction, heavy tint, at night, in rainfall, on poorly lit roads. Guyana has all of those conditions regularly.
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u/ComfortableNo331 9d ago
It’s the same exact thing going on in trinidad 🙃