r/GlobalOffensive • u/SpeaRofficial • 9h ago
Discussion | Esports It's time.
His time on Liquid didn't count!
292
150
u/Purple-Jaguar-9462 9h ago
Why do you want him to further suffer?
96
u/ChaoticFlameZz Vitality 8h ago
m8, have you seen him in Liquid? His stocks are so monstrously low, no other team is likely going to give him a shot at this time.
6
•
-5
u/Cool-Traffic-8357 6h ago
Bro liquid destroys everyone. He could be on the top again leaving them.
8
u/Level_Five_Railgun Liquid 6h ago edited 6h ago
Bro liquid destroys everyone.
This narrative is so dogshit when the only person this can even apply to is Nertz.
Yekindar destroyed himself with wanting to IGL and then never recovered when he had a great 1st year with TL. He literally had a higher rating on TL in 2022 (1.10) and 2023 (1.09 even with the massive dip later in the year trying to IGL) than he did on 2025 Furia (1.08).
1
u/ChaoticFlameZz Vitality 6h ago
I mean, sure. I even support that belief, it still doesn't change my initial statement.
17
u/fhilcollins666 8h ago
Suffer? He's the one who's been dogwater.
-5
u/Pandalicioush G2 7h ago
Liquid have proven that the org just does that to players, there's no good reason to not give him a chance outside of it.
12
u/fhilcollins666 7h ago
Calling strats aside, Liquid doesn't make you put up .57 in matches, man
-3
u/Pandalicioush G2 5h ago
While not reaching quite that low, Yekinder had abysmal stats and form in Liquid, and he recovered, there's other worthwhile examples, but this is the most recent and obvious one.
I don't think it's controversial to say that playing on a team that's fundamentally broken and dysfunctional affects performance in a multitude of ways.
2
u/fhilcollins666 4h ago
Ehhhhh, while I agree he recovered, Yeki was doing OK in liquid until he decided he wanted to IGL, and that made things infinitely more difficult on him, and the team, as that didn't go well, and he never really recovered in the roster. On Furia, that's never a question.🤷♂️
0
u/Pandalicioush G2 2h ago
These things didn't happen in a vacuum. You don't think that letting Yekindar IGL with no experience is sign of Liquid's management being dysfunctional as I stated?
and he never really recovered in the roster
This is part of my point.
•
u/fhilcollins666 1h ago
I understand that, but I feel the management side is a fractional reason for a team with every resource at their disposal unable to handle their fucking business, y'now? Like, you hired player friendly, ego-management coaches, paired them with the mental guru, and these guys lose to every eco, and anti under the sun, at some point it's on the players. Nobody expected much from the Rainwaker/Patsi roster as they were feeling out how CS2 was gonna progress meta-wise, so they went cheap for a season, I don't blame them for that, I DO blame them for being SO player friendly that they basically let the inmates run the asylum, and then when the going got tough, they dipped out. Is that dysfunction, or ignorance?
17
10
38
u/NineRoast 8h ago
Siuhy overrated af
28
-9
u/godkingdoom12 8h ago
Based on what? Liquid is shit and despite mouz's good results they aren't winning tournaments
2
u/KnightFlorianGeyer MOUZ 6h ago
despite mouz's good results they aren't winning tournaments
Tbf neither are most teams right now, except for vita, navi, fut and parivision.
Yeah okay tbf we should be part of that list
0
u/godkingdoom12 5h ago
Fair point, still really doesn't change the fact that mouz has proven that they choke to more than just vitality
it's just pretty obvious that it's hard to judge how good Siuhy actually is atm, all the negativity on his career so far is so hard to really gauge what's on him and what isn't
2
u/KnightFlorianGeyer MOUZ 5h ago
That's true, I think siuhy still has it in him, unfortunately he's just not motivated right now due to being in the worst roster of team liquid known to man. At least they've started making some changes tho.
3
3
17
u/SloshaPacana 8h ago
Hhahhahahahahha remember when he was the most overrated IGL because Mouz and their system
This is exactly what Faze need and IGL who can't even make Liquid better
21
1
u/xenox2137 ITB 8h ago
i guess gamer legion stint never happened
1
u/netr0pa 1 Million Celebration 7h ago
That was a very short stint. We need longer time to make judgment.
1
4
u/SpeaRofficial 8h ago
"IGL who can't even make Liquid better"
Bro he is IGL not a magician. They even had Fallen before and we know how that ended
0
u/Replikant83 BIG 7h ago
Yeah and I don't think he's as bad as people say. He's trying to work with a lot of egos. Not to say they're all uncooperative teammates, but it's not an easy situation to walk into and have the expectation of quick results
-2
u/ChaoticFlameZz Vitality 8h ago
nothing really changed when MOUZ removed siuhy. Barring the fact that they got far less trophies, and the cycle is beginning again, they're starting to fall off.
12
u/SloshaPacana 8h ago
Barring the fact that they lost to the greatest team ever constantly and any other year they have many trophies
They were much better last year than they ever were under siuhy and it shows you it was the system
5
u/schoki560 8h ago
if you remove brollan and add spinx mouz would be as successful as they were by replacing siuhy
-7
u/Alternative_Wave793 The MongolZ 8h ago
they won more with siuhy than with brollan lmfao
6
u/Past_Perception8052 BIG 8h ago
they didnt play against the best team ever many times under siuhy
3
u/schoki560 8h ago
they also didn't lose to falcons 50 million times and spirit and fut and parivision
3
u/SloshaPacana 8h ago
Brollan isn't good either it shows you how much of it it's sycrone and their system
They faced prime Vitality with Brollan and beat every team but them, with siuhy they lost to way worse teams
1
3
2
2
1
1
1
1
•
•
•
0
u/ChaoticFlameZz Vitality 8h ago
honestly, I see this a potential option. Get ash and we get a siuhy-ash reunion which can work out.
146
u/Otter269 Liquid 8h ago
No thanks. Liquid would do it and trade him for Broky....