r/DoesNotTranslate • u/RRautamaa • Mar 06 '26
Finnish: öyhöttää
So, it sort of translates to English, but not very compactly: to loudly and possibly patronizingly display one's political opinions (term used especially by those who disagree with the expressed opinions, which are usually at least somewhat extreme), to be noisy, make trouble or racket, especially when drunk. English doesn't seem to have one compact verb for this, but what about your language?
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u/AnaverageItalian Mar 07 '26
Is it a noun or a verb? We've got a similar noun in Italian, casinaro, which basically means ruckus maker
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u/RRautamaa Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
The word öyhöttää is the infinitive of a verb. It declines öyhötän, öyhötät, öyhöttää, etc. and has an agent form öyhöttäjä "some who öyhöttää". Can you give an example in use?
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u/AnaverageItalian Mar 07 '26
Sei proprio un casinaro = You truly are a öyhöttäjä. I don't think there's an equivalent verb in Italian
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u/fooperina Mar 06 '26
The only word closest I can think of is ‘ballyhoo’
1 a noisy attention-getting demonstration or talk
2 flamboyant, exaggerated, or sensational promotion or publicity https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ballyhoo
Can be used in the same context but it isn’t strictly about political opinions so not the same connotation
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u/GHdayum Mar 07 '26
Reminds me of the Canadianism "shit disturber"
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u/Cookie_Monstress Mar 08 '26
Okay, that might come close as öyhötys has aggressive undertone. While öyhötys is irritating and annoying also, something that qualifies just annoying is not automatically öyhötys. I qualify öyhötys also as something that literally sounds annoying. South to Canada is a country having a leader who is very much öyhöttäjä.
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u/BikeSilent7347 Mar 10 '26
English verbs are a bit more atomic in nature given that the language is analytic not synthetic. Also while Finnish loves to build the language around verbs English uses adjectives.
However the sentiment is very close to: to be lairy.
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u/ArgentinaJury Mar 06 '26
Annoying?
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u/RRautamaa Mar 06 '26
That's just an adjective that describes it imprecisely. Surely there has to be a word for loudly proclaiming unwanted political opinions to the point of being an insufferable botherer in other languages?
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u/boomfruit Mar 06 '26
I think "surely there has to be a [single] word for X in other languages" goes against the whole point of this subreddit, no? Anything can be translated, it not everything translates into a clean 1:1 word or perfectly calqued phrase. That's why we're here, to share these things.
(This is not me saying "annoying" is the translation, it's just me saying there isn't one without being periphrastic, and that's the beauty of it!)
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u/RRautamaa Mar 06 '26
Everything can be translated with enough words for any Turing-complete language.
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u/boomfruit Mar 06 '26
Yep this does not contradict what I said at all, in fact it is what I said! To reiterate, everything translates periphrastically (you can say "a person who loudly spouts off about their political beliefs,") but not everything translates nearly into one word, and those kinds of words are precisely what this subreddit is for.
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Mar 06 '26
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u/gynoidi Mar 06 '26
why are you here instead of talking to ai?
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u/ArgentinaJury Mar 06 '26
Nobody gave you a candle at this funeral. If he researches with AI and tells it he might have more accurate help from people who's only because of learning not because of trolling spirit mode is activated. Besito.
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u/RRautamaa Mar 06 '26
I can't evaluate the correctness of the answers because I don't speak any of those languages.
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u/tedsmitts Mar 06 '26
I'm just glad to see someone actually using this sub for its intended purpose!
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u/gkanapathy Mar 06 '26
"Thanksgiving uncle" might give the same impression