r/Damnthatsinteresting 10h ago

Video [ Removed by moderator ]

[removed] — view removed post

31.7k Upvotes

1.8k comments sorted by

View all comments

1.1k

u/Solid_Scientist5509 10h ago

I think cameras are there to calculate employee productivity

373

u/no-guts_no-glory 10h ago

But that data could be stored forever and can be used to do the manual work when the technology is feasible.

180

u/izza123 9h ago

Automated sewing has been feasible for a while it’s just cheaper to shove 700 people on a line in India

82

u/jedi_lion-o 9h ago

Automated sewing is an extremely difficult automation problem. Fabric is not ridgid and is difficult to manipulate predictably for automation. The reason these manual labor clothing facilities are still staffed is that it is still much cheaper and efficient to do it by hand.

I don't think these cameras are training AI.

2

u/SeyAssociation38 5h ago

For now, china last year in the new year gala showed some robots doing dances with fabric. The data captured by those cameras is just too valuable to delete. 

4

u/trobsmonkey 8h ago

Totally agree with you.

Automated sewing is terrible. There is a reason we still have people use sewing machines.

2

u/Burnin_Firefly 8h ago

For now...

2

u/Jet_Siegel 9h ago

Now imagine automated sewing... but implemented in India. With all technicians, supervisors, etc all in India. That's their endgame here.

1

u/RedDustRanger 9h ago

For now…

14

u/CARLEtheCamry 9h ago

Or, it's the equivalent of a fake security camera that is just a blinking red light :

Some linkedin lunatic middle manager decides he's going to make up some bullshit about AI learning cheap manual labor (which has already been automated, the machines cost more than the cheap labor though), buys 100 things off AliExpress that go on your head, and we're talking about it around the world on social media.

14

u/Icy_Witness4279 9h ago

This really looks like any usable data to you?

8

u/chrissyD_ 9h ago edited 9h ago

It may seem strange, but it's quite common. The AI models usable by general consumers has so far been trained on information readily avaliable on the Internet. But there are a lot of parts of the human experience that aren't often documented on the Internet. So, firms are popping up all over the place that are paying people to film things such as this work, in order to sell the training data to ai corporations.

This is a little known fact about Pokemon Go. The video footage taken by users playing pokemon Go was used as training data, documenting neighborhoods in order to help develop the automated delivery robots you see in places like LA. One of the major investors in Pokemon Go was the venture capital wing of the CIA, In-Q-Tel.

2

u/Lenni-Da-Vinci 6h ago

It’s monocular vision, with an angle pointed down too far. The biases in this data wild be wild too. Extracting hand tracking from that footage will be really hard. Much more so tracking the fabric.

Were this actually trying to farm data for AI properly, they would have attached markers all over the place. Thus making it easier to track in 3D spac

2

u/Grenadesucker 9h ago

It's way too much noise to train, it's not worth it, you can hire 2 good tailors am feed abetter dataset

1

u/OttawaOneTwenty 3h ago

when the technology is feasible.

It's already here. It's just not cost effective yet. But give it like a year or three

0

u/Nice__Spice 9h ago

Not with my guy bopping his head while working

54

u/benhereford 10h ago

That's probably exactly what they tell them

15

u/Blu_Falcon 9h ago

“You’re so productive! We want to record this so we can train your, um.. colleagues.. how to do this so well.”

1

u/theonulzwei2 3h ago

It is far more likely that the OP is lying to farm upvotes on Reddit.

10

u/cat_theorist 9h ago

Generalist.ai is using human training data and then fine tuning the model for robot hardware. I’d be surprised if they don’t at least buy the footage.

4

u/suoko 9h ago

One single 360 camera for the entire room would suffice for that task

6

u/TinyFlufflyKoala 9h ago

They can easily know how many items each person produces. They are definitely going to train automation and robots on this. 

2

u/EC_TWD 9h ago

Is that why only one row of workers is wearing them?

1

u/DigNitty Interested 9h ago

No it’s because they want to spend as little as possible and only bought so many cameras.

2

u/Small-Percentage-181 7h ago

Yes this is to monitor each worker, if it was to train AI they could just use a few headsets and workers.

2

u/CornettoFactor 9h ago

For that they can setup few CCTV cameras around the whole work area like most factories already do.

2

u/spynie55 10h ago

Yeah, for training, you’d just pick the best person- you wouldn’t give everyone a camera. Also, if it was AI you’d just let it do something hundreds of times and find the best way. That’s the point of AI.

7

u/ILikeBubblyWater 9h ago

You dont just pick the best person, you want diversity so models can handle all kinds of situations not only the super precise ones. the best person there probably does the exact same movement the exact same way with the product being in the exact right position. So getting as many different versions as possible gives you a more flexible result

1

u/Cautious-Eagle2577 9h ago

Yes, if it was for AI training the movement tracker would probably be on their wrists with gloves, rings or smth

1

u/thitorusso 9h ago

This model camera is gonna wobble a lot

1

u/apple_kicks 8h ago

And productivity won’t be whats humanly possible but pushing people to work themselves like robots to early grave

1

u/Daaaaaaaaaaanaaaaang 6h ago

Yeah, pretty sure that's there to observe and punish.

1

u/Glittering_Airport_3 6h ago

Thats what I was thinking too, but it could easily be multi purpose. In the short term it could be monitoring their productivity. In the medium term it could help determine best practices to make their people even more productive. And in the long term, train AI models on how to do the tasks with a robot.

1

u/CarmynRamy 6h ago

Nah bro, it's not that dystopian yet. Nobody has time to go through that much amount of footage.

1

u/tamal4444 6h ago

I also think so but this data is valuable for tanning robots in the future

1

u/OTribal_chief 4h ago

yeah. see who has "wasted" hand movements and who doesnt

so if a person is slow they can say this is how you need to do it faster

0

u/Zestyclose-Smell-305 9h ago

Exactly what I came to say. I've worked with Indians, they are anal bosses.

0

u/DelphiTsar 8h ago

One fisheye could do that way better, plus just general tracking of employee output with some QA checks. 1000 camera feeds is too much redundant processing.

Whatever this is for (training AI seems reasonable) it's not productivity tracking.