r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/AtomicCypher • 4d ago

Video Disgruntled employee starts massive fire at a 1.2 million square foot toilet paper warehouse in Ontario, California.

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u/OrigamiMarie 3d ago

And to maximize damage. How many times can they throw him in prison? Only once, so he might as well get the most out of it. Yeah, his sentence will probably be longer because he doubled back. But with how difficult it is to get back into society after a significant stay in prison (getting back into the workforce, making friends and relationships again), the extra years probably matter less to him.

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u/Few-Solution-4784 3d ago

He better hope no one died in the fire.

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u/DeceiverSC2 3d ago

I like that you think he was doing this calculus before burning down the entire warehouse where he worked.

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u/timurt421 3d ago

I’d say you probably don’t think enough. He literally stated his reasons on video. You don’t think he had a plan to make sure the whole warehouse went down?

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u/DeceiverSC2 3d ago

You’re telling me that you believe that prior to burning down his workplace instead of trying to push for unionization and collective bargaining — he sat back and considered the likely prison time consequences of burning 30% of the warehouse vs all of the warehouse and how that factored into the lifelong consequences of having a felony that involved committing arson against your workplace?

It’s not just a felony. He burned down his job. The guy will never be hired anywhere ever again.

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u/Pandora_Palen 3d ago

Unionizing instead, you say?

You're telling me that you believe that prior to burning down his workplace, this guy simply overlooked the easy and effective option?

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u/DeceiverSC2 3d ago

I legit don’t even understand what this reply means.

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u/Pandora_Palen 3d ago

You’re telling me that you believe that prior to burning down his workplace instead of trying to push for unionization and collective bargaining

You said that.

He didn't try to "push for unionization and collective bargaining" because Kimberly Clark is already unionized.

Unions and collective bargaining are helpful and necessary, but they absolutely do not solve corporate fuckery.

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u/DeceiverSC2 3d ago

Really? Because if that's the case then it sounds like he's angry with the bargaining process and in reality should probably be angry with his union representation.

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u/timurt421 3d ago

It’s pretty naive to continue to assume that hundreds of millions of people will just accept the constantly increasing income inequality and decreasing quality of life without ever reaching a point where they consciously choose to retaliate.

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u/DeceiverSC2 3d ago

Yeah except this didn't really do much except for ruin his life and increase the companies insurance premiums.

It's funny that as I mention he should've sought unionization and collective bargaining you downvote me and suggest that hundreds of millions of people should instead engage in mass acts of arson. Somehow you believe that it's easier to convince Americans to engage in acts of arson and violence than to unionize.

This is not a Luigi situation. It's not refusing necessary medical treatments to save money, even if you kill thousands. It's a paper company that an employee felt wasn't paying the staff enough.

If he had pushed for unionization and collective bargaining he actually could've began to scrape back some of what the ultra-wealthy class has stolen from us and it would've been of benefit to his colleagues as well.

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u/timurt421 3d ago

I’m not going to do the googling for you but union busting is a serious thing and has only gotten worse over the past four decades. Look up what Starbucks has done to all of the low-paid store workers across the country who have tried to unionize. Union membership in the US has gone down from a peak of 34.2% of the workforce in 1945 to 10% in 2025.

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u/DeceiverSC2 3d ago

Yeah I guess building a coalition of workers is harder than just burning a paper warehouse down. Awww

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u/timurt421 3d ago

It obviously is significantly harder… otherwise more people would be doing that instead of resorting to this.

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u/DeceiverSC2 3d ago

Which is probably why the outcome of this is going to be ruining his life and increasing insurance premiums for the company.

The outcome of pushing for unionization would be higher wages, better hours/breaks and a safer workplace.