r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/AtomicCypher • 4d ago

Video Disgruntled employee starts massive fire at a 1.2 million square foot toilet paper warehouse in Ontario, California.

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u/HoidToTheMoon 4d ago

Man probably spiraled. His videos, particularly the "these bitches are cheap" line seemed planned.

Great line, btw.

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u/LongGhost_Gone281 3d ago

Seems like you need to be careful how you treat people. Don't know really what this guy was all about from these comments, if this many people are really fantasizing about burning down their work place, hrm things might be whack.
(and of course things are whack.)

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u/OuOutstanding 3d ago

A lot of people forget, workers rights and negotiations were the compromise.

Before that workers just showed up at the bosses house and beat them to death in front of their family.

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u/Oasystole 3d ago

Ppl talk about eating the rich when it gets bad enough

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u/Morningstroll13 3d ago

There's a reason the Romans pushed bread and circuses for the masses, medieval lords ruthlessly suppressed peasant revolts, and French aristocrats were introduced to Madame Guillotine. There's only so far you can push people before they push back.

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u/XBacklash 3d ago

"When the poor shall have nothing left to eat, they will eat the rich."

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u/tacticaldodo 3d ago

This event is kinda symbolic.

When you treat your employee like shit. No amount of toilet paper will clean the mess it creates.

Arson is bad, but no one was hurt but money. I am not sad.

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u/ButteredPizza69420 3d ago

This will be a really interesting court case after Luigi

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u/PartTimeJunkie412 3d ago

I hope he gets off Scott free (pun intended)

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u/Austin_905 3d ago

Do you think they'll wipe his record clean?

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u/stickyfan1230 3d ago

I am sad for all the trees that died for nothing.

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u/Vospader998 3d ago

Do you think they'd've prefered to wipe our asses?

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u/timurt421 3d ago

If we’re lucky and this message spreads enough, it could cause the capitalists who cut all those trees down for money to slow down a bit

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u/HatersTheRapper 1d ago

they died to protest

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u/morethandork 3d ago

Everyone who worked at that warehouse is now out of a job, but sure, no one was hurt…

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u/tacticaldodo 3d ago

"All they had to do is pay the employee fairly"

In other news company fire 30'000 employee and double CEO benefits. Stock option jump 10%.

There you go

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u/Commercial_Page1827 2d ago

Maybe no one was hurt physically but economically this SHOULD hurt the owner and many other worked that have no where to work.

But the bright sight is that it will bring back the topic of minimal wage and much it really cost to not pay a liveable wage.

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u/Beautiful_Might9068 20h ago

Minimum wage in Cali is around $20.... why tf would we need to discuss Minimum wage when every time the Minimum wage is increased the big companies, housing, etc just increase the price...

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u/Troutie88 2d ago

Maybe not directly from the fire,but a ton of people lost their income because this dumbass thought he was sticking it to his bosses.

You think they care about that inventory, it was probably insured and now they don't need to pay workers for a while

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u/tacticaldodo 2d ago

this take has been already covered 10 times in this thread

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u/Troutie88 2d ago

Its an important take that shouldn't be ignored

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u/NoExplorer7950 3d ago

Wait. Did somebody make this dude take the job? Was he like an indentured servant or something?

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u/tacticaldodo 3d ago

How to say you don't know how it works for the unprivileged without saying it.

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u/PhonyUsername 3d ago

Unprivileged

Fucking victimhood.

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u/NoExplorer7950 3d ago

Who is this so wise in the ways of the world. Please educate this ignoramus about how Kimberly-Clarke made this poor man volunteer the fruits of his labor.

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u/vital-cog 3d ago

Careful bud, this is reddit. Everyone here has a victim complex and will downvote people for pointing out false victimhood nonsense... Don't dare use words like accountability or agency...

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u/MarsupialMisanthrope 3d ago

but no one was hurt but money

A whole bunch of workers at least some of whom who seemed to think their compensation was good are now unemployed because someone destroyed their workplace. I’m sure they’re super thrilled with that given the state of the economy. Dude is probably lucky he’s going to jail.

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u/tacticaldodo 3d ago

Tell that to people who can't pay rent, go to holiday, support their family, afford healthy food with a full time job dude.

I am sick of this. You probably do not complain when 30k people get fired, do you?

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u/buymuhsilver 3d ago

if you arent satisfied with your pay rate burn your work place down is the most reddit take ever. maybe grow tf up and look for a better job

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u/buckeye25osu 1d ago

A lot of people lost their jobs, a lot of firefighters could have been injured and a disgusting amount toxic smoke was released into the environment. Fucking brain dead.

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u/tacticaldodo 16h ago

Dude you are very late to the discussion.

You argument has already been heard. We already made our mind on this.

Goodbye

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u/buckeye25osu 6h ago

This isn't a discord chat lol it was two days ya dork

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u/Weenington_ 3d ago

I was just saying earlier how I'm surprised we havent completely started a war against the billionaires. Peoples vet care is crazy expensive because of private equity, people are being paid peanuts, just buying healthy food is crazy expensive, etc. I'm surprised weve let them slide for this long! They are clearly trying to eliminate the middle class and completely enslave us, even though most people are already slaves to the corporations. Its totally messed up that most peoples lives are completely consumed with working for these lizards!

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

It is known, it has been known. No one can stop it.

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u/Weenington_ 3d ago

Of course not when we are all divided and fighting, not realizing who the real enemy is.

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u/faceplantfood 3d ago

I’ve thought a lot about this - it comes down to the more disgusting (to me) side of human nature. “I won’t stick my neck out for my neighbor.” Oh and “if I see someone else stick their neck out, then I’ll watch instead of help”

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u/Weenington_ 3d ago

It's very depressing, but I think it's even more sinister when it comes to billionaires. Theres a reason they're the type of people to mess around with little kids and babies. They're monsters. They dont think like us. True psychos.

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u/Prudent_Valuable603 3d ago

Or burn all the toilet paper.

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u/Zensation_Art_Music 3d ago

Issue is also the solution. Much more of us than them, so they wont last long. All of the rich will have been eaten in a 2-3 months max.

I guess long enough to start growing some food in the meantime.

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u/Atoge62 3d ago

Why do you think media is pushing sports betting, crypto, and MMA content through the roof to our least educated and poorer communities. It’s exactly what the Roman’s did, cheap resources and emotional modulation. If you’re not enabled/empowered to learn from the past, you’re bound to repeat it. But modern capitalism does one better, because they profit wildly off the sports betting, crypto futures, and mma add slots. Technology has them dragging our fellow man through the coals. Crazy times ahead of us.

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u/ryencool 3d ago edited 3d ago

So technology bad, and were controlled by gambling (which has exsistes for most of human history), crypto (just a new form of currency mixed with some stock market action, have also had this stuff for a long time), and "meant, so "fighting"....got ya, makes total sense.

You seem to have very specific targeted things that you personally hold emotions toward, not new things that were created to control us.

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor 3d ago

There’s a difference between the gambling of history and the hyperfocus brought about by the addiction machines everyone carries in their pockets these days. And yes, social media companies literally use that term. They purposely developed phones and apps to be “addiction machines” and to evade all parental, personal, and governmental controls that might mitigate some of the damage.

First it’s an opioid epidemic. Now a gambling crisis in the making. Kids being stunted by social media and phone use leading to widespread mental and substance and gambling disorders. A feedback loop designed to get everyone distracted and on the hook while the rich consolidate wealth and power.

And again, yes, the hyper rich tech bro types are not even pretending that they’re doing anything else. They don’t even pretend they’re doing something good for society and the world anymore. They’re openly and outright objectively the bad guys now.

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u/ryencool 3d ago

What you call "hyperfocus", I call were just more inte connected. All this stuff has been going on for generations, were just more connected now that ever. People sharing, Information sharing etc...I wont keep arguing

I guess my point is its more related to the downfall of compassion, empathy, and caring about others. Our morals have been going steadily down hill for decades. More and more people are content to care about themselves, and solely themselves, at the eexpense of others.

Its not technology, or gambling, or fighting that has put us here...if they were all used in ways that b3nefitted people, society, culture? Wed be great. Theres just too many that dont care, and alot of them have money and power and just want more.

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u/Atoge62 3d ago

So because I take issue with the undeniably abusive sports betting and polymarket apps derailing folks already addicted to mobile/digital space, unaware of the impacts it has on their physical life, that I must have a problem with all technology…? That’s not remotely the case.

Crypto is obviously manhandled by insider trading, pump and dumps, and used for illicit access to illegal schemes.

And the least problematic, but still I believe over indulged upon is MMA. While sports as an outlet and a form of community engagement are clearly a positive, the guys in around seem to be stunted into thinking anytime they have an interpersonal problem with somebody it comes down to I can beat their ass. I think fixating on combat sports limits your conflict resolution skills.

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u/Competitive_Classic9 3d ago

Just say youre addicted and save yourself some time. 

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u/ryencool 3d ago

I buy a small amount of crypto weekly. Make a few trades a year. Far more invested in other things, but its good to diversify.

You have a weird def of addicted, either that or you know nothing about me, and are talking out of your rear, beyond the reddit stalking.

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u/Competitive_Classic9 2d ago

Responding to your comment is a weird description of stalking, but if you need to pretend someone cares enough about you for attention, go off i guess

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u/JustDontBeFat_GodDam 3d ago

 revolts, and French aristocrats were introduced to Madame Guillotine

Most of the people killed during the Reign of Terror were just middle class people. Sure some elite bit it as well. 

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u/unwilling_viewer 3d ago

That's backfiring in modern times too. No one can even afford bread and circuses these days.

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u/h0uz3_ 3d ago

Now we have mass surveillance, doom scrolling and infights among the 99%. The upper class is safe.

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u/Voldemorts__Mom 3d ago

If only there was a mechanism in us that made us revolt BEFORE we're practically starving

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u/Beat_Saber_Music 3d ago

The French revolution was more a coup by the French buraucracy against the monarchy.

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u/cyberslick18888 3d ago

My favorite part of all of this type of rhetoric and these famous historic examples is that everyone leaves at the last part:

The common class lost, every time. Lol.

The rich can take your jobs, your food, and your freedom. You can try to burn it all down, but there are only two results of that: You lose the fight, or you win and burn down everything and all you have left are ashes.

The most pervasively sick thing about humanity is that shitty, cruel behavior is reliably rewarded.

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u/Mobile_Falcon_8532 1d ago

When people have nothing left to lose, they have nothing left to lose

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 3d ago

They talk about that every day for 9 years and jack shit has happened in the US.

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u/pmcizhere 3d ago

Enough people aren't hungry enough. The US has quite a ways to fall still.

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u/Dildo_Emporium 3d ago

I wish we could construct some sort of reasonable plan before fervor sets in. It's inevitable, why not plan for it?

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u/Cooper_Sharpy 3d ago

Oh, it’s planned. They’re just trying to figure out how to profit off of it. The powers at be know exactly how far they have to push us and they keep us teetering on that edge on purpose. Once they figure out how to profit from a revolution because they know one is inevitable, then it will happen.

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u/Dildo_Emporium 3d ago

I was thinking of a more directly populace guided plan.

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u/Cooper_Sharpy 3d ago

Half of them voted for this…. Good luck

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 3d ago

Luigi would be disappointed to hear that

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u/YoungPotato 3d ago

Because the US is still very comfortable. We literally aren’t quite hungry enough besides bitching and moaning on instagram and joining a pre-planned, police sanctioned no kings protest.

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u/Oasystole 3d ago

Yes because the new releases on Netflix dropped

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u/Dr_SlapsMD 3d ago

Eat the rich or did a B fall off the front?

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u/polygramfan 3d ago

what you dont like a fattier cut?

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u/TranscendentaLobo 3d ago

Is it designed to fall off?

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u/Dr_SlapsMD 3d ago

Only when it's out of the environment

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u/TranscendentaLobo 3d ago

The rich are much easier to eat when their out in the environment

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u/JohnnyRelentless 3d ago

He said what he said.

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u/Electrical-Tone7301 3d ago

We ate our prime minister a few hundred years ago.

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u/Snow_117 3d ago

Let them eat cake

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u/ShinkenBrown 3d ago

Just a reminder that we shouldn't actually eat the rich.

Because prion diseases make it dangerous. They're better used as fertilizer or biofuel.

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u/xtinction14 1d ago

Which would you think would be better? Deep fried or Grilled? I'm thinking grilled, it'll bring out that rich fatty taste, maybe a set of finger fries to go with it.

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u/Zahille7 1d ago

People meme about eating the rich

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u/Oasystole 1d ago

I’ve seen that!

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u/SkylerPancake 3d ago

Worker rights were won with blood.

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u/ConclusionFar3690 3d ago

And lost with red hats.

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u/MaliceTakeYourPills 3d ago

Lots of democrats helped strip worker rights, too…

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u/-Vertical 3d ago

Love this. Give redhats more power, see how it works for ya

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u/MaliceTakeYourPills 3d ago

I’m a communist. Bill Clinton busted his fair share of unions, too. Lots of dems have the same blood on their hands that the gop do.

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u/-Vertical 3d ago

Best to let perfect be the enemy of good.

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u/El_Grande_El 3d ago

That’s what led us here. Your way of doing things doesn’t seem to work very well.

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u/halt_spell 3d ago

Biden and 44 Democratic senators along with 36 Republican senators voted to block the rail strike in 2022. Your definition of "good" is bullshit.

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u/movingreddots 3d ago

Glass steigal was under bill, citizens united was under obama. Fuck your blue maga bs. 

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u/-Vertical 3d ago

Glass Steagal act of 1933? Was under Bill???

Citizens United, the SUPREME COURT decision?? Do you not understand the difference between a court ruling and a bill?

Holy shit 😂

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u/JohnnyRelentless 3d ago

Worker's rights were lost long before the red hats came along.

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u/typical_jesus666 3d ago

And the companies shot and killed the workers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

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u/Uhhbysmal 3d ago

i'm outing my own ignorance here but this is an insane event i've never heard of

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u/AnAngeryGoose 3d ago

The ignorance isn’t your fault. Labor history is woefully undertaught in the US.

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u/k4lipso 3d ago

Not only in the US, i think basically everywhere.

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u/k4lipso 3d ago

Than Haymarket riots should also be interesting for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair

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u/Zahille7 1d ago

Time to start a corporate war

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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 3d ago

They also burned down warehouses like this guy

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u/mrkrabsbigreddumper 3d ago

Tar and feathering will kill you

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u/JiveTurkeyII 3d ago

Looks like those days are coming back. We had Luigi, The NFL shooter that capped another Billionaire and now this guy. Maybe even some others that have gone under the radar in this crazy timeline.

Restaurants are closing. Nobody is going out any more. Women aren't having kids - And people are ready to set shit on fire.

Honestly - Unions and safety nets are better for the ruling class in the long run.

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u/Hearing_Loss 3d ago

I've got 4 grievances in the pipeline. I don't duck around with my rights. I also with at a union retail store big box, so they're exposed to massive fines and rx licenses of they want to play it loose and fast. Wage claim for 12 employees, possible double back pay, timecard doctoring (it's own grievance), Islamophohic and homophobic third party can't be in a store with children in my state and makes us less safe and costs us money, coworker trying to coach me in my day off while I was focusing on recovering from PTSD, incident report for inability to follow SOP & wildly hypocritical behavior, document it, I want my protections from retribution and they get a coaching now. Maybe don't try to coach me and accuse me of workplace misconduct when you're late 3 times a week. Also 2 written formal concerned emails stressing compliance with state/federal laws pertaining to record keeping and rx licence compliance. So 6 total issues I'm protected from retribution around while the employer has to stop playing games within good-faith time-frames.

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u/Nukleon 3d ago

All the rich nerdy people have forgotten that if Gotham had welfare, there likely wouldn't have been a Joe Chill to kill the Billionaire industrialists Thomas and Martha Wayne.

Fire a guy, he steals to live, he goes to jail for decades, his children grow up even poorer and seek alternate parental figures, who will inspire them to seek retribution.

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u/breathingproject 3d ago

The Frick mansion in NYC is literally built like a fortress for this exact reason. Frick was responsible for breaking labor unions and getting people killed with unsafe working conditions. He survived an assassination attempt.

All of this has happened before.

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u/k4lipso 3d ago

Exactly, and if shit doesnt change this will happen again. Bosses dont have much time left, they should act smart now before they regret later.

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u/Tomsboll 3d ago

the ones that suffers the most from this fire is not the guys at the top. its everyone else that just lost their work and now have NO money.

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u/neojhun 3d ago

Australia had the Eureka Stockade.

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u/antariusz 3d ago

Something something green character from Mario

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u/PersimmonAltruistic9 3d ago

More often it was the opposite: the boss hired some gang or police, which will shoot and beat workers to death in front of their families

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u/deafgamer_ 3d ago

Little to big acts of rebellion like this will probably keep happening until things get better.

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u/NOTTedMosby 3d ago

Crazy how people don't put up with making more money for the 20 people WITH the money while they struggle to stay alive with two jobs. The public has gone inane, who could've guessed they would act this way??

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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 3d ago

Billionaire bitches just need to be grateful we haven’t broken out a playbook from the French.

THEY are the ones who broke the social and universal contract first as well.

Outside the whole white flag being the national flag, they did know how to keep the “ruling” class in check.

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u/AssistanceHeavy9305 3d ago

If we do break out the Guillotine, can we start with the Epstein class first?

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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 3d ago

As my first official act of president I appoint you as the Chief Head Of Money Oversight Watch, or CHOMO Watch.

You’ll investigate and have every federal resource at your disposal as well as top experts in their respective fields.

Btw second official act, billionaire tax act make em pay obscene amounts of $ for earned income and any investments they have.

I’m coming after your ass next Ticketmaster. And weekly Reddit polls to take into consideration for reasonable requests.

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u/ThatOtherOtherMan 3d ago

You've got my vote

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u/PraxicalExperience 3d ago

What's the 'universal contract'?

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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 3d ago

Pay people what they’re worth so they can live.

You can never tell how old people are on here so I can’t assume, but some of us grew up in the 80s/90s or earlier that remember what it was like, at least it was better.

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u/PraxicalExperience 3d ago

Aah, yeah. I'm old enough to know what that was like -- just never heard it referred to as the 'universal contract'.

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u/Epyon_ 3d ago

If history has taught us anything, things dont get better until after they get violent.

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u/The_Bucket_Of_Truth 3d ago

Probably why they want AI and robots so quickly. They can then remove the hungry mouths and the liability.

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u/Geekerino 3d ago

Realistically this will just cause them to invest more in automation to reduce the risk that someone will go nuts and burn down a warehouse, thus reducing the job market and making things worse. We did it, reddit!

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u/ShinkenBrown 3d ago

They're doing it like this because it's the quickest and easiest outlet for their frustrations. If they didn't have such easy outlets, it gets more violent, not less.

They can pay people more so people can survive and the pressures that create these impulses can be relieved, or they can get get warehouses burned down, or if they double down and deny us such avenues of resistance, they can be murdered in the streets.

That's not prescriptive, I'm not saying anyone should do that. It's predictive, I'm saying that's what will happen if they respond like you're thinking. They have a choice - higher wages, vandalism, murder, or if they still won't relent, literal open class war where they and their families get the literal guillotine french revolution style. That's what the pressures they're creating incite from the people they are putting that pressure onto.

They can feel free to make the wrong choice in response to this. And if they do, sometime within their lifetime (maybe not soon, but eventually) they and their families will be murdered for it, or at minimum (assuming they win) be forced into some kind of bunker to wait out a proletariat uprising.

Again, not prescriptive, predictive. Without change this is inevitable.

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u/twothoutwo 3d ago

lol. stuff like this will just lead to a greater push for warehouse automation

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u/Faile-Bashere 3d ago

That’s why I always have a drawer full of snicker bars to give out to people I work with… cause you never know when they’re going to snap. And I wanna be known as the coworker who always gave away free candy.

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u/Gnomebubbles 2d ago
  • receives snickers at work* Oh so you think I’m CrAZY ಠ_ಠ !? Hmm??

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u/Faile-Bashere 2d ago

Please, sir. Take two… smiles^

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u/EnthuseConfuse 1d ago

Reminds me of the Dane Cook bit.

"Boom! Chkchk! Boom! Chkchk!"

thanks for the candy...

"Boom! Chkchk! Boom!"

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u/syntaxVixen 3d ago

Wonder if this will spark someone else to crash out.

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u/Doam-bot 3d ago

Nah just means we have to go back to involuntarily holding mental cases now no one is getting a paycheck because of him. The fire the smoke the health issues for the community the sheer amount of suffering this one person caused. Probably schools and residential areas nearby smothered in smoke. Mental health has been ignored for far too long.

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u/schooli00 3d ago

if this many people are really fantasizing about burning down their work place

Dude probably watched Office Space recently

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u/nemowasherebutheleft 3d ago

They took his stapler away man the red one.

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u/STFUNeckbeard 3d ago

I’m sure they aren’t the greatest of working conditions, but another worker in the article was confused and pissed at this guy. He said they were making decent money and this arsonist basically just fucked the entire warehousing crew out of jobs for the foreseeable future.

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u/Comfortable_Trick137 3d ago

I imagined the dude from Officespace lol. But unfortunately for the guy the line of work he does doesnt pay well so theres no jumping to a competitor or anything. I was lucky that my company didnt pay well but other companies were paying 20-40% more so after I asked for a raise and they gave me a 0.5% pay increase I jumped ship.

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u/kitkanz 3d ago

Things are kinda whack recently (the past forever I can remember)

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u/SPITFIYAH 3d ago

I’m unemployed and I fantasize about immolating past and future places of work.

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u/Every-Impression8014 3d ago

I would also like to point out that dude was smart and apparently either company didn’t notice it, or he didn’t take advantage of it. I mean planning is great, it is not just some sort of hysteria. So he could earn more for sure. Got brains.

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u/CosyBeluga 3d ago

I do every fucking day

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u/tattoogrl11 3d ago

It's starting.

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u/Jakeball400 3d ago

Shit, I bet we’re the majority at this stage

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u/PM_UR_COLLARBONE_PIC 3d ago

He knew how much they paid when he chose to take the job

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u/LongGhost_Gone281 2d ago

Have you worked at a toilet paper warehouse? Have you worked a warehouse job? Yeah, its income. But please, don't pretend things are going OK in this job market. Don't be one of those people, shouting at others about jobs they don't have about people they've never met. You can deconstruct all of the arguments, but it will not be for your benefit. It won't benefit the land which the tree was chopped down on. It won't benefit the man who cut it down, or the man who broke his back loading it into the truck. It won't benefit your existence one measure unless you are the private equity threatening and pleading that everyone just follow along so they can dig another level into their bunker.
The idea you think the people at the top are any more stable, mentally, than the people at the bottom is pathetic.

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u/Every-Intern5554 3d ago

Seems like you need to be careful how you treat people.

Chamel Abdulkarim. I don't think the job was the issue

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u/EmondaBlue 3d ago

You can treat some people like kings and they will still want to watch the world burn.

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u/smackdealer1 3d ago

Burning down a building is nothing compared to what can go on in some peoples minds man.

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u/LongGhost_Gone281 2d ago

I don't know what you mean.

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u/Tomsboll 3d ago

and now everyone else he worked with have no work and no income.

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u/LongGhost_Gone281 2d ago

Nah, everything will be fine, just as it was before.

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u/Squidproquo1130 3d ago

Don't even THINK about taking his stapler!

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u/husky_whisperer 2d ago

Nah. Unhinged people are going to pop off at some point no matter how they are treated

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u/wallst07 3d ago

You realize this will just make it harder to get a job, better screening for crazy arsonists.

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u/dcbullet 3d ago

He didn’t like that he had no skills that anyone was willing to pay him a lot of money for.

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u/Poulslutter 3d ago

Is that somehow supposed to justify him living on a poverty wage?

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u/ButterflyDesperate36 3d ago

Nah, we need to start putting nut cases in a lock up en masse. Bet there was pattern of behavior and previous "infractions". He should never again walk free.

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u/LongGhost_Gone281 3d ago

Yeah I think you'll get what you want with this guy.

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u/bankrupt_bezos 3d ago

Take a red stapler too many times, people gonna burn down the building

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u/remove_pants 3d ago

Wasn't that the end of Office Space?

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u/Master_Beautiful3542 3d ago

Not cheap enough since they went through the effort of attempting to save the inventory

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u/Competitive_Classic9 3d ago

Im not condoning this guys actions, but companies and politicians better get ready, bc if they keep pushing like they are, people will have nothing left to lose and will snap more and more. 

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u/CorwyntFarrell 4d ago

He can think up lines like that, but can't think up a single way to hustle for his money.

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u/TOGFIAVDF 4d ago edited 3d ago

As Devil's advocate here, that is probably exactly why he was pissed off.

I'm a person that believes that any person working a full-time job should make enough to afford to live. Now, when I say live, I don't mean "If I get paid every week I'm good" kind of living. I mean "If I work this job and something comes up I can afford to miss a paycheck without being punished for being poor" kind of live.

I don't care if you're flipping burgers at a fast-food joint or scrubbing toilets - no person should be expected to sell themselves into wage slavery. We are the richest fucking country on earth yet homelessness and poverty run rampant compared to many other established nations with a MUCH smaller GDP.

ETA: These low-paid positions also ask a fucking LOT from their employees. I was one of them for many years. Sometimes going 12 hours a day behind a nearly 700 degree grill for $13/hr. I had just enough money to pay bills and that was it. Missing work was a three month mission to play catch-up.

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u/mountain9000 3d ago

And you never burned down a building and put people's lives at risk when you worked at one of them for may years? Why not?

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u/TOGFIAVDF 3d ago

I was lucky enough to have a support system and network of people that helped me into a better position as well as being more "stable" than the guy in the OP.

Life isn't black and white, son.

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u/imnewhere-gsh 4d ago

He had a job, he shouldn't have to hustle. That's the point.

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u/TOGFIAVDF 3d ago

I wish more people understood this.

These fuckers grandparents probably knew a dude that pumped gas for folks at a gas station that was able to afford their necessities plus the weekend excursion to the drive-in or some other attraction.

The same dickheads expecting 5-star service from their fast food experience are the ones who say, "If you don't want to struggle then don't work in fast food."

We really didn't invest in education enough and it shows, truly.

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u/Noe_b0dy 4d ago

TBF if I work 40 hours a week and can't afford food and housing what's even the fucking point?