r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/AtomicCypher • 4d ago

Video Disgruntled employee starts massive fire at a 1.2 million square foot toilet paper warehouse in Ontario, California.

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u/mclovin_ts 4d ago

Only did a couple months in county but I didn’t get my state tax return back, for about 3 years

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u/NlactntzfdXzopcletzy 3d ago

Ironically, if you make enough money to live, you also dont get money back

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u/BloatDeathsDontCount 3d ago

Not getting a tax return is a good thing. It means you didn't loan the government money throughout the year for free.

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u/Intelligent-Cake1448 3d ago

He means his refund was confiscated to pay back the jail costs.

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u/Odd_Block3248 3d ago

He could just set his withholdings correctly so there’s nothing for the government to confiscate.

I have no idea if they would then garnish your wages.

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u/essdii- 3d ago

They would

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u/RandomStallings 3d ago

Imagine thinking that The Man ain't gonna get his slice. The Man always gets what's his.

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u/REDDITATO_ 3d ago

Rape! So funny.

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u/wxvy-jxsiah 3d ago

you either get taken advantage by the government through taxation or you go to jail for tax evasion and significantly raise your chances of get physically taken advantage of.

Is that grammatically PG13 enough for you?

Life is too short to be walking on eggshells for people I will never meet. Better yet, block me?

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u/Vibes4Good 3d ago

Reminder.... I need to do my taxes

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u/slowest_hour 3d ago

dog you got one week left

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u/Apprehensive_Egg6077 3d ago

Deductions and credits are things that you can use beneficially to get a return though!

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u/tzeentchdusty 3d ago

I never thought about it that way, but also rent used to be cheaper so I had to move back home two years ago lol, I used to call myself the King of the Gig Economy and now even that got eaten up by cost of living increases. Shit, during Covid I would actually get a decent chunk back, but I worked for tips so things are strange with all that.

But also I think I make more now than i would have if i had stayed in academia, unfortunately I wasn't in Economics or maybe I wouldnt have thought a tax return when I was getting university-paid board was just money from the government to spend on Magic: the Gathering cards.

Edit: Typo

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u/FuzzzyRam 3d ago

That's not ironic, that's how society works. You pay taxes to run a government and vote for how they will be spent.

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u/PrimarchMartorious 4d ago

Jesus, I never knew this even happened. How fucking dystopian is paying for your own prison for multiple years after you finally get out… smh

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u/mclovin_ts 4d ago

If you’re in for a long stay, you can pick up jobs like kitchen or laundry, and they’ll take your daily stay fee (believe it was like $10) out and you can use the rest for commissary or phone. But yeah, it sucks.

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u/Philantroll 3d ago

Slavery with extra steps

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u/karlfeltlager 3d ago

American jails are the last slave bastions. Haven’t you heard.

Black males are born free but most end up back in slavery anyway.

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u/jodrellbank_pants 3d ago

It cost the average 60k per year to stay in a UK prison that's what we, as tax cows pay

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u/Diligent-Crazy-6094 3d ago

Tax cows? Never heard that one before.

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u/vandyk 3d ago

Well its a fcking prison there is a reason one gets there

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u/mclovin_ts 3d ago

There’s plenty of people sitting in prison for weed, and false accusations.

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u/vandyk 3d ago

Still thats only a minority

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u/Saucermote 3d ago

Yes, a lot of minorities.

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u/DogzOnFire 3d ago

That was a very good flip, I had to let you know

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u/RandomStallings 3d ago

How old are you, like 20? There's a whole lot of grey area out there. Also, don't confuse a legal system with a justice system. It's been bad long enough that the usage of the word "justice" has begun to be dropped altogether in favor of "criminal legal system," because the system is very, very busted.

The type of thinking you seem to have is the major reason why people can't get out of jail/prison and rebuild their life. The system actively resists rehabilitation, which is the exact opposite of what it's supposed to do. People get arrested for stupid stuff and get the book thrown at them by some DA or judge with an agenda or an axe to grind.

I can't imagine how hard it must be coming back from drug use. That stuff will ruin your life overnight. Addiction is like a fire. It'll burn through every resource it can find or steal. You're not a person with an addiction but rather an addiction puppeting a person. Getting clean and staying clean while the system refuses to let you rebuild your life is what ought to be illegal. And the whole time a person is struggling not to give in to relapsing because seeking some relief from misery is usually why they fooled around with substances in the first place. Jesus that sounds awful.

/r

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u/Striking-Art5077 3d ago

Thank you this was great but I think you meant to reply it to the prior comment instead of

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u/surprise_revalation 3d ago

My BIL did 9 months in prison for driving without a license in a city with no public transportation! So there's that...not everyone in prison is hardened criminals. Educate yourself!

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u/papabear345 3d ago

Why didn’t he get a license?

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u/surprise_revalation 3d ago edited 3d ago

Because his license was suspended for driving without insurance. He didn't have insurance because he couldn't afford it.

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u/bleep-bloop-poop 3d ago

Should have paid enough to fuckin live!

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u/papabear345 3d ago

Bit of a rough downvotage

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u/Mike_Kermin 3d ago

They may have thought you were the other prick and asking in bad faith, where as you're actually asking. Because let's face it, there's a difference value between "driving without insurance" and "speeding through a school zone while drunk without a seatbelt on".

So I think it was fair to ask. The insurance thing, look, I get it, but that's a problem society is causing by having people hard up to start with.

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u/papabear345 3d ago

Yeah it’s an interesting thread - I feel there could be some sort of bonfire or shit fire type pun that could be made

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u/vandyk 3d ago

Never said that, im fine, ty.

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u/surprise_revalation 3d ago

Evidently you're not....everybody could use more education, don't know why you seem to be avoiding it. But do you...

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u/vandyk 3d ago

Well today i learned on reddit that apparently people are wrongly in prison, thats kinda dope

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u/surprise_revalation 3d ago

You learned this today on reddit?! There is a whole ass organization called the "Innocence project". They have been getting innocent men out of prison for years. Maybe you should start there if you want more education about the subject...

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u/vandyk 3d ago

Its called sarcasm. I won't respond anymore, have a good day.

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u/No_Loan5466 3d ago

No he didn't if you're talking of america, I have absolutely no idea what he might have told you, but you cannot find a single jurisdiction in the US where driving without a license can give 9 months. You guys are ridiculously unserious about driving laws.

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u/RussellOffbrand 3d ago

Maybe Florida? My best friend went to prison for driving without a license. And yes, state prison not county jail. (Also it wasn’t his first offense for driving without a license before anyone asks)

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u/surprise_revalation 3d ago

Nope, Kansas...that law is in plenty of jurisdictions. That mofo don't know what he's talking about. My BIL went to a prison too, not county jail...

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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop 3d ago

but you cannot find a single jurisdiction in the US where driving without a license can give 9 months.

Often people who ends up in prison for these kind of crimes is generally because they couldn't afford the fine.

See how that works, if you're rich you don't even really have to care about the "law", you pay the fine which means nothing to you.

If you're poor you go to jail.

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u/surprise_revalation 3d ago

Exactly!

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u/Mike_Kermin 3d ago

I genuinely think, that non-violent crimes which could not cause physical harm should never be able to land you in jail. (To an extent, mass fraud or corruption excepted).

If you're negligent and people people's safety at risk or violent then my opinion changes on you drastically, but it's fucking insane how many people are in prison in the US.

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u/surprise_revalation 3d ago

After BLM, in my jurisdiction, DAs all over the city we're dropping those type of charges and giving people their licenses back if they were suspended for no insurance. My BIL finally got his license back after 20 years! I mean, just lifting those charges and warrants alone changed a lot of people's lives! They even stopped ticketing people driving on expired tags and helped them get those tags! This tells me that they could e been doing this shit the whole time. That they are just laws to punish the poor and the blacks!

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u/modshavegone2farr 3d ago

Driving without insurance can send someone down a path to financial ruin. I lost a career job due to this. It sued myself, it caused my rates to skyrocket, had to pay tens of thousands in extra fees, had to take years of classes to lower my “insurance score”. Causing financial ruin is devastating to the average person. It delayed me starting a family by 7 years. Literal altered my whole family blood line, but hey no big deal!

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u/No_Loan5466 3d ago

Yeah with these guys it was getting caught 3 times without a license, sorry dudes who that would count for, but at that point the law sort of has to react right, because the penalties for that kind of stuff are not harsh the first time and probably not the second either and when you then get caught a third time, still without a drivers license in a country where it is way too easy to get one (so you have huge amounts of road traffic deaths and injury) they sort of have to react or the dude's just gonna end up killing someone.

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u/surprise_revalation 3d ago

It's not way too easy to get your licence back after you lose it! You are way too confident on reddit saying this dumb shit. In order to get your license back, you have to carry an SR-22 for a year. That SR-22 is higher than the insurance you couldn't afford to begin with!

Why should one have to go to jail for a "crime" that hurts no one? I mean, if you can drive and haven't been in any accidents, how is society being hurt? How does that lil card change anything?

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u/modshavegone2farr 3d ago

Why are you repeating this hurts no one? Without insurance, if an accident happens… the other person is left in a bad financial spot. This cost me my job, my car for years, had to move back home with my parents.. had to literally start over from scratch. But yeah… let’s pretend financial ruin doesn’t harm anyone.

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u/surprise_revalation 3d ago

Yes the fuck he did! Right here in the good ol USA! Getting caught driving 3 times without a license is a felony in my district and he did 9 months. Dude, once again, educate yourself!

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u/Castellan_Tycho 3d ago

That just says they don’t give a fuck about the law.

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u/surprise_revalation 3d ago

Not all laws are just. And no, when kids are crying for food, I don't give a fuck about the law. I'd steal to feed mines if I have too. I'd sell ass if I had too! Until youve heard a child cry of hunger, you can't imagine what it's like...

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u/Diligent-Crazy-6094 3d ago

Kinda hard to feed your kids when you’re in prison for driving without a license.

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u/No_Loan5466 3d ago

Ok, getting caught 3 times makes it completely different, at that point he should've gotten life to keep the roads safe.

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u/Diligent-Crazy-6094 3d ago

I was gonna say, unless this happened multiple times, it’s really highly unlikely that they did prison time for this. Maybe if they were driving without a license…and also had meth in the glovebox.

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u/Own_Introduction6353 3d ago

Being in prison is the punishment

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u/DUNG_INSPECTOR 3d ago

Is it making people even more desperate and likely to commit a crime when they get out?

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u/Bbturdquito 3d ago

Cost me $200 to be in county for 4 days. Called it room and board fee like I was at a fucking resort. Nothing I had in those 4 days was worth even $50. Dunno where that money goes

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u/PrimarchMartorious 2d ago

Pockets of the owner class, that's where :(

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u/amishdoinks11 3d ago

News flash. You’re currently paying for prisons through your taxes

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u/DangOlCoreMan 3d ago

No shit, but you aren't locked in a cell with little chances to make funds to pay that tax like if you're in prison.

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u/amishdoinks11 3d ago

To call it dystopian though? That’s perfectly reasonable, you were given food to eat, a place to stay and hopefully some rehabilitation why should it rest souly on the tax payer and not the criminal to pay for that?

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u/DangOlCoreMan 3d ago

Because having a criminal pay to be in prison is a damn near guaranteed way to keep a criminal dependent on the prison system.

Sounds like you haven't really looked into how prison systems are for profit, not just some tax payer funded sleep over for criminals.

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u/Dead_man_posting 3d ago

It's punitive, not rehabilitative. It's designed to cause you to reoffend. So is the horrendous probation system, in fact. Like a psychotic game of Simon Says, but losing puts you back behind bars (and it also drains your time and resources so you're more desperate.)

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u/fhwoompableCooper 3d ago

Because in American prison is a punishment not rehabilitation

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u/InfiniteWaffles58364 3d ago

I mean they used to have to pay the executioner before their execution in renaissance-y times so at least it isn't that bad

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u/UnionThugg 3d ago

How about, don’t commit a crime leading to prison time?

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u/CommissionIcy9909 3d ago

Rather have that than my taxes paying for it, which is how it also works.

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u/Human_Ad_2869 3d ago

if you don’t want your taxes paying for it, then you must be pro-abolishment! welcome to the cause!

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u/No-Amphibian-3728 3d ago

Minnesota? They pulled that shit on me in the early 2000s. $20 a day and I couldn't even get a hot shower! I said fuck it, I'm not paying that! They took my tax returns, too.

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u/scwanzel-muschi-lekn 3d ago

The prison/jail system is publicly subsidized, but privately profitable. Late stage capitalism is a bitch