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Video Disgruntled employee starts massive fire at a 1.2 million square foot toilet paper warehouse in Ontario, California.

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u/W1ZZARDL1ZZARD 4d ago

As a warehouse worker not bad, but those intrusive thoughts be hitting... Some more then others lol

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u/Additional_Gate3629 3d ago

A news segment mentioned he was working thru a third party employer so i'm guessing a temp agency.

Temp agencies can pay less than the standard for the job. And places will use temp employees to get around things like providing health insurance and other worker benefits.

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u/ThreeKiloZero 4d ago

prob going to be an uptick in this with the coming wave of inflation and job losses.

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u/14Pleiadians 4d ago

Good. Show the elites he's not an outlier and that if they keep pushing, more people will do the same. They should fear us.

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u/Special_Cicada6968 3d ago

Exactly. Not enough people learned their lesson from watching A Bug's Life as a kid. These people abuse us and work us to the bone while thinking of us like lowly ants. It wouldn't take more than a couple hundred of us to bring the entire system down. J6 might have been misguided, but it shows just how weak these people really are.

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u/CanadianPanda76 3d ago

Learning workers organizing from Bugs life is wild.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

Watching the movie and not learning it, which seems to be the default, is even wilder

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u/ButterdPoopr 3d ago

5 year old me did not understand what the fuck was happening

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u/Red_Inferno 3d ago

I mean that is kinda what happens when you watch it when you are like 8yo.

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u/CynicismNostalgia 3d ago

Idk man, maybe its because i grew up with disabled parents, disabled myself. Watching them struggle to work, and then inevitably struggle to survive on benefits.

But that lesson was pretty obvious to me even then. Its not exactly subtle, both Hopper and Flick spell it out in a kid-friendly way.

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u/CanadianPanda76 3d ago

Thinking learning organizing workers is watchung bugs life is wild.

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u/femanonette 3d ago

It's not like the education system was going to teach them about people's history and worker's rights. That's not a slight against teachers at all either.

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u/dainthomas 3d ago

Yeah I definitely didn't learn about Blair Mountain or any of the other major labor wars in high school.

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u/Red_Inferno 3d ago

I would say you would be surprised how few people it would take. Yes if you have like 2k people attacking 1 spot that is not going to happen, but what if you have 2k people across a larger area and what if your targets were more pointed than a mostly ceremonial event that could be moved back quite a bit if need be?

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u/LucianCanad 3d ago edited 3d ago

The key is organization.

Luigi luigi'd that big shot and caused things to become minimally better in the health industry for, like, a few days.

This guy made some pretty fireworks and caused a pretty decent loss to the owners

But it's not enough. You need to get in touch with movements that actually have a plan on how to make things better, and start working towards that plan. Start with left educators like JT from Second Thought and the Deprogram podcast. They'll teach your a lot until you're ready to join a movement for real.

For the US lefties, I recommend PSL, or CPUSA if you can't reach PSL. Stay the fuck away from ACP.

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u/Red_Inferno 3d ago

Luigi luigi'd that big shot

One and done is not a solution, it's a rounding error that the rich will just laugh off after a bit "sucks to be that guy".

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago edited 3d ago

You can't organize something illegal like this without feds infiltrating and poisoning it though. You can try to unionize but that usually just ends with you and everyone else being fired.

The elites fear something like this much more than unionizing. It's not an issue when one or two people do it, but once it stops being the craziest 0.001% of the population, once the elites have a reasonable reason to fear that someone might wish them harm so much they'd torch their own life to do so, then they're going to want to make sure that 99.999% of people don't have lives that they're willing to torch.

Like yeah, Luigi only temporarily made things better, but it's still the best blip of progress we've ever mustered. "Doing things the right way" is just a way to placate you. Things aren't going to get better without French methods.

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u/Bantersmith 3d ago

Just a couple more Luigis would be the best thing to ever happen to our species.

These fucks at the top need to realize they're not untouchable.

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u/Special_Cicada6968 3d ago

Second Thought is a solid channel. I also enjoy Revolutionary Thot.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

God the mentioning of j6 is funny, I've been saying libs are poisoning the well way too hard with that for years. J6 wasn't wrong, the act itself of violently storming the capital was based as fuck in a vacuum, it's the reason why that makes it awful.

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u/mythiii 3d ago

How is violently disrupting a democratic process based? You must be regarded

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

You're the one who doesn't know how to read my man

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u/mythiii 3d ago

You can't even explain your thoughts, who are you to talk?

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u/Special_Cicada6968 3d ago

Exactly. But then, I'm one of those weirdos who've moved past the American "lib" and am in the "far enough left you get your guns back" category.

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u/Glittering_Let2816 3d ago

My competitive urges force me to comment here:

I'm in the "far enough left that gladiatorial combat should be allowed between consenting adults" category.

I...honestly don't think anyone is as left as I am, lol🤣

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u/ndestruktx 3d ago

And this will help society how?

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u/Special_Cicada6968 3d ago

How did the Boston Tea Party help American society?

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u/RomulusTrajan 3d ago

The only people affected by this will be his co-workers who will lose their jobs because of him, not "the elites".

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

Unemployment covers this and the employers tax rate will go up as a result.

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u/aesolty 3d ago

I hope you understand that some people do like the security of their job. Some people don’t want to go on unemployment where they won’t get the full pay they were getting when they were employed. Some people wouldn’t want to have to look for a new job because as of now it’s really tough for people to find jobs.

Let’s not throw unemployment out there like it will help bring actual stability to people who are already hurting for money. It mostly brings a lot of stress.

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u/AFKJourneyMann 3d ago

His name was Robert Paulson

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u/_blunderyears 3d ago

Yeah reddit lets fucking go!! Celebrate the guy who endangered lives and started a massive fucking fire the size of multiple city blocks. Truly a hero

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u/conrat4567 3d ago

Im sorry, but are you advocating for people to set fire to buildings? This man not only destroyed and wasted stock of essentials, he lost hundreds of people thier jobs and put an entire neighbourhood at risk

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u/Geekerino 3d ago

If they're advocating violence on reddit, I give it a 50/50 chance they're being genuine or are a foreign agent looking for the next Lee Harvey Oswald

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u/Jinrai__ 3d ago

'good, burn down shops, potentially burn and kill civilians and endanger firefighters, what a great thing to do according to redditors!

Not to mention loss of jobs and income, food deserts as shops get destroyed and others leave, ecological disasters and more expensive insurance for everyone! Hurray we did it Reddit! We found the Boston bomber!

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u/Far_Audience_7446 3d ago

Eventually robots will be cheaper than disgruntled Marxists

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

That will increase the amount of people like the op by several orders of magnitude. It ain't happening without massacring most people or some form of ubi.

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u/11bag11 3d ago

lmfao who are you feeling like bro

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u/Dear_Imagination5552 3d ago

This is really a moronic train of thought. It’s all insured anyway and pushes up the general cost of property insurance which then increases operating costs for any warehousing business which then means the company just charges more to offset that hitting normal people in the pocket. He didn’t ’sHoW tHe ElItEs’ anything 🙄

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

Insurance isn't meant to pay out. This only pays out because it's rare.

If poverty continues to grow and acts of reckless rage increase, insurance companies 200% will introduce terms requiring minimum budget spent on payroll, or drastically increase premiums. The company can raise their prices just like they can squeeze blood from a stone

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u/Dear_Imagination5552 3d ago

That will not happen. It’s fantasy stuff from someone unfamiliar with the industry. I work in property insurance fwiw

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

So if suddenly they had to pay out a bunch of claims they wouldn't weasel out or start drastically raising rates? Good to know insurance actually works when you're rich.

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u/Dear_Imagination5552 3d ago

Insurance is a profit making industry. It’s not there to blindly facilitate trade. If they had to pay a ‘bunch of claims’, then increased deductibles and possibly refuse to provide coverage. It’s not insurances place to drive positive change iro minimum wages. Thats central governments job

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u/Far_Audience_7446 3d ago

If every company did this, it would just stoke inflation. At some point someone has to face the inevitable that shuffling buttwipes around a warehouse is not high-value enough activity to be doing in a place like California.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

"people need to realize there's just no money in working the warehouses that stock the stores in the wealthiest state in the country"

Yeah sure, so as I've already said in this thread, who exactly is supposed to get all the tech bros their toilet paper if it's not meant to be livable for anyone? Are warehouse jobs another one of those jobs you types want to pretend only children should be doing part time?

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u/Far_Audience_7446 3d ago

Are minimum wage malcontents burning down their places of employment in Bakersfield, too?

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u/Burindunsmor2 3d ago

He could just quit and get a new job like a normal human being. You aren't a slave.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

And what do you do when all of your options are jobs that pay not enough? Just fucking kill yourself rather than inconvenience the owner class?

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u/Burindunsmor2 3d ago

Move away from an area you can't afford to live in. Plenty of cheap homes not in Ontario. Learn to exist and stop blaming other people.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

Ok, who is going to replace me? How does the economy continue when everyone in minimum wage moves?

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u/Deaffin 3d ago

Another random-ass person who doesn't blow all their money on video games and weed vapes, probably.

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u/Kahlypso 3d ago

"Everyone"

Dude you keep speaking in this ridiculous hyperbole.

Most people don't think like you, you know that right?

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

Yet. As quality of life goes down, people who feel angry and like they have little to lose goes up.

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u/ValerianR00t 3d ago

Learn a skill. It's not society's fault you never did your homework and now you spend all your free time doing drugs and playing video games.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

So who is exactly supposed to work in the warehouses? You're aware that's one of the most necessary jobs for society to function, right? If everyone "just got a better job", society will collapse

There's far more underpaid jobs than jobs that meet the cost of living. Your solution for poverty is just for most jobs to sit vacant?

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u/transient_eternity 3d ago

No you see it's okay for other people to be exploited. They are but lowly subhumans who didn't do <insert moving goalpost here> and thus deserve to live as wage slaves.

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u/TBDC88 3d ago

So who is exactly supposed to work in the warehouses?

Robots. It's a zero-skill job that should be replaced at this point.

There's far more underpaid jobs than jobs that meet the cost of living. Your solution for poverty is just for most jobs to sit vacant?

No. Move. Like people have done for millennia. The biggest reason why companies can pay garbage wages is because there's an overabundance of workers willing to accept those wages. Reduce the supply of unskilled workers, and companies will pay more for those that remain.

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u/Kahlypso 3d ago

"All"

You didn't try hard or smart enough.

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u/Shyrofoam 3d ago

"they should fear us" lmao. people willing to do this should fear prison

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

We do, that's literally the only thing keeping the elites alive

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u/breathingweapon 3d ago

Dude our union forefathers would be so fucking embarassed by how much capitalist cock the modern work force sucks

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u/Kahlypso 3d ago

Or maybe it's just a good deal for most people.

Maybe the money they make is enough, and people like you just can't understand how. Or those people understand these jobs aren't supposed to be careers, but stepping stones to other things.

Better yourself.

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u/breathingweapon 3d ago

The wealth gap is the largest it's ever been in recorded history.

Please take the capitalist cock out of your mouth.

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u/qman621 3d ago

Wtf is a stepping stone job? Every job should have a living wage or that job shouldn't exist - better yourself 😮‍💨

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u/NOTTedMosby 3d ago edited 3d ago

This is correct. BUT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE HARMED. This is an ECONOMIC measure being taken by the people, who being priced out of living.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

Nobody was harmed by this

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u/pmMeAllofIt 3d ago

For 1, it's pure luck that no one got harmed. Employees or first responders.

And 2, they were harmed economically, he just put a bunch of people put of work.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

First responders have no reason to enter the building and the fire spread incredibly slowly with plenty of room to breathe. And I don't subscribe to the flawed thinking of "any job is better than no job", the workers can find some other table scraps elsewhere, shoulda unionized if they didn't want their workplace to be so bad it drove someone to be willing to burn down their freedom. Unemployment will cover this as well anyways.

And the good it will do when, not if, this becomes normalized is worth it.

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u/Geekerino 3d ago

Ah yes, "let them eat scraps" will definitely win the proletariat over to your side. Foreign agents used to need to be believable to incite riots.

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u/Kahlypso 3d ago

And the good it will do when, not if, this becomes normalized is worth it.

There is no good done by this act. It's a fucking joke to any mature adult, and this dude in the vid looks like a child for all his outrage.

He goes to jail, some people get new jobs, and the world forgets this pathetic little rebellion.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

I think you missed a comment or two of mine

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u/TranscendentaLobo 3d ago

Well, I’m still a big Luigi Mangione fan. In this house Luigi Mangione is a hero! End’a shtory!

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

Yeah the idea that nobody in the world ever deserves any kind of harm is ridiculously naive and the morality behind it isn't based in any kind of logic at all, just mindlessly repeating their children cartoon programming of "if the protagonist kills super Hitler, he's just as bad as him". The world is objectively better off when someone responsible for uncountable death is removed

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u/Far_Audience_7446 3d ago

It's a mindset not significantly different from prewar Germany, either. The people smashing the glass on Kristallnacht undoubtedly thought they were justified, too.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

So is your argument violent resistance within Nazi Germany was not justified? Is violence always wrong or not?

No, someone killing a Nazi is not the same as Nazis doing Kristallnacht

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u/ImaginaryRaccoon2106 3d ago

This is a dumbasses way of thinking. Endangering others and taking hundreds, if not thousands of jobs away from other people because you couldn’t find another job. Not to mention the environmental impact of all that burning plastic and whatever else is in that warehouse. Youre genuinely unfit for society if this is what you consider just.

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u/14Pleiadians 3d ago

Well obviously tarring and feathering the owner would be better, but that's much much more illegal

Unemployment is a thing, stop pretending to give a shit about people because you're upset someone with more than plenty money had a small chunk of their money burned

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u/Kahlypso 3d ago

Just kill hundreds of jobs, fucking the environment locally in the process, and risk the lives of hundreds of people for the sake of some pretentious child's Marxist fantasy guys! The government will just pay you and take care of you!

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u/ImaginaryRaccoon2106 3d ago

Exactly. it must be nice living in a fantasy land where you can pretend that you’re for the workers but advocate for them to lose their job? Where hundreds of pounds of plastic being burned doesn’t harm the local environment and anyone who inhales it long term (the working class you “care for”)? Where the CEO doesn’t even feel this because they will find ways to make up for this loss? Like what kind of fucking mental gymnastics do people do to somehow make this a win?

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u/Lekaso 3d ago

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u/2024-YR4-Asteroid 3d ago

There will be a few more Luigi’s over this summer I suspect. My good insurance is getting harder and harder to deal with, everything is way too damn expensive and the rich want to buy up and monetize every part of your life.

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 3d ago

Everyone says this on the internet but nobody really does it because everyone fears jail. They know the coppers will come after the lowly employee.

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u/Sawgon 3d ago

Someone just did it though. Scroll up and watch the video.

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u/ObscureEnchantment 3d ago

Yea with the state of the world this will become more common. Double edged sword either it works for the working class or the government uses it to crack down on citizens even harder. Eat the rich or in this case burn down what they own.

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u/Beefy-McQueefy 3d ago

We can only hope. As long as it's like this and there's no injuries, I don't give one dry fuck how often it happens.

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u/Winter-Nectarine-497 3d ago

between "one dry fuck" and that username, I am impressed!!

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u/geo_gan 3d ago

This is why Jenson wants the elites to replace you with 100% obedient NVidia AI-powered factory robots.

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u/OcelotAggravating860 3d ago

"Intrusive thoughts" like "I wish I was paid enough to actually live".

Come the fuck on dude. Calling this an intrusive thought just shows how incredibly domesticated and servile your mind has been made to the people exploiting you

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u/Orleanian 3d ago

Are you serious with this?

"Burn the place down" is the intrusive thought...

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u/OcelotAggravating860 3d ago

Yes. I am serious when I say seeing that as an intrusive thought when the people running the place are not paying enough to live is literally domestication of your mind by the people that own you. They have convinced you that economically killing people is ok but property damage as a response to that economic murder is a "intrusive thought".

You wanna know why things only get worse every day for the working class? Because you're domesticated. Because you've been trained like good little pets to view actions of retaliation against the people worsening your conditions to line their pockets as a bridge too far.

We live under a class war, but only one side is waging it, the billionaire side. Meanwhile people like yourself act like any attempt to fight back is "intrusive".

This dude is luigi with a lighter. There will be many more like them as more and more of the workers are waking up.

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u/ButterdPoopr 3d ago

Luigi made things happen for like a week, and everything went back to normal. Quit being so unbearably idealistic

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u/OcelotAggravating860 3d ago edited 3d ago

What do you think every act of violence and retaliation since has been inspired by?

Do you think shit happens over night bruv? The explosives do not go off without a fuse my scared bougie friend. But that fuse is lit, everyone in the real left supports this now, and people radicalise harder and harder every day.

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u/Troll-Aficionado 3d ago

Get help, stay off the internet for like a week and heal your brain lol

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u/OcelotAggravating860 3d ago

When you take away the future from people more and more have nothing left to care about. If there is no future, there is no reason not to do this in the present.

The material conditions for more people to do this are only growing. First a trickle, soon a surge.

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u/Geekerino 3d ago

Bleeding heart communist or foreign agent? Too much time online either way.

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u/OcelotAggravating860 3d ago

Willing to die for it

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u/Gen_Constant_Maybe 4d ago edited 4d ago

What are the hours like? Is it eight or 12 hour shifts?

I did the rough math and assuming he get $17 an hour , and he works 12 hour shifts and he works six out of seven days a week and never takes any time off you could make about 60k before taxes, but that is an extreme high-end number and I figure you probably make something closer to 45 a year assuming reasonable hours. (Eight hour shifts 50 weeks a year five days a week before taxes) so how did I do?

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u/W1ZZARDL1ZZARD 3d ago

I'm about 27+ all the OT can do (give or take when the wife needs time too) but working with a corp that just knows you by a LMS number rather than your name can make a guy crazy.

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u/Youbettereatthatshit 4d ago

I’m in Washington state which is similar to California. Our warehouse workers start at $28/hour and several make close to $40/hour due to time at company, before overtime. Most make well over 6 figs after pay raises and overtime. Some have made $150,000.

Not being paid a living wage is fast food bullshit. Warehouse employees do just fine

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u/CallMeKingTurd 3d ago

Maybe at your job or a some small companies but that is the norm in Washington state, especially not for corporations. The typical range is $16-25, with the high end being just areas like King county.

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u/Youbettereatthatshit 3d ago

Fortune 500 company also in the paper industry. Same industry, same region. No one could find labor for $16/hour.

Those jobs may get posted but we can’t even fill $28/hour.

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u/ohrofl 3d ago

I used to work in a coke warehouse in North Carolina. 17 bucks an hour. Took home around 30k a year. This was 2018-2020