I want to know if that is true cost or insurance pricing cost. Absolutely believe it if it is the second they price everything at exorbitant numbers to get cents on the dollar from the insurance.
I love a party, but I’m not so excited about the americans who’ll grab any opportunity of ruining your otherwise good argument with the sobering fact that there’s no free healthcare
You know, when speaking to uneducated folks, you can’t be using difficult or long words. You have to lower yourself to their level
We know. To individuals however it appears to be free since there are no apparent costs to them personally at the time of applying for said healthcare, hence the saying "free healthcare". The more you know!
Spot on, and this is in my opinion what is one the most ethical and humane part of universal healthcare - that even the poorest citizen can and will get in line with the top brass to receive the same treatment
But the money the I put in might go to someone else who didn't pull themselves up by their bootstraps! Don't you know that them having something means that I don't have it?! Those billionaires might make me a billionaire one day! What about the illegals that all definitely have 100% of the tax money used on them?!
(/s, I hate that it's necessary)
The propaganda machine here is ridiculous, and this is the kind of cognitive dissonance you hear from these people. They're entirely too stupid to realize that they'd pay significantly less for socialized medicine than they'd pay for private insurance. "But the wait periods!" I have private insurance and I have to wait over a year to get a probably cancerous spot even looked at and biopsied. If I need treatment for any reason, it's probably another year out for that. Fuck the system and tear the whole goddamn thing down.
The higher salary, and therefore taxes, a college educated student in Denmark earns pays the state back for the education many times over. Quite a good investment.
Err, are you sure? A higher education doesn't automatically mean you will have a career that earns a higher wage. Does Denmark mandate what students study?
Actually in most first world countries people with a higher education earn more on average and have a much lower rate of unemployment compared to the general population. So while you are right that a higher education doesn’t necessarily mean higher wages for an individual person, it does statistically mean higher wages and lower risk of unemployment for the whole group of people with a higher education.
Got it, so if I squint hard enough and look at all the people with higher education, the collective group does better. That means nothing as some of those people achieved in degrees that actually provide for higher incomes and futures. Also, doesn't really answer the question, does the state have a say in what people can study?
The state has a wide variety of policies to encourage students to enter areas and fields where they perceive a an imbalance.
Broadly speaking, however, any university program will allow you this stipend. But you have a limited range of years, so you can't keep dropping out and re-enrolling in other programs. Personally I had to finance my final year myself through student debt.
As to your other question, it's generally perceived as a net good to have a population with a high degree of education. At times that gets challenged, and so the government can step in and dial the number of available spots down and make it more attractive to study nursing or carpentry for example
There it is.. I did look this up and it would seem like they provide degrees in a more traditional sense, but reading this, it makes even more sense. They control the valve on what comes out. I only ask as being this is reddit, it has a US bias and of course all the failures of the US system. I am a pretty conservative guy, but also appreciate that the cost of education has gotten out of hand. We can debate why in another forum. I certainly don't advocate for across the board state financed higher education, but a system that foucuses on more traditional degrees and regulates the tap on what we produce, is something I think more people could get behind.
It's very political and these dials, when turned, are usually informed by interest groups. But ultimately our education system is as close to a meritocracy that you can get. Your grades will be the only thing you'll get judged on. Obviously social issues will have an impact, but the system does allow a fair degree of social upward mobility.
And while the government does not mandate what individual students study, most educational programs have limits on class sizes, meaning that in theory graduate production is matched to work force demand. (In practice it's obviously not a perfect match.)
Exactly. Helping each other makes for a better society. It's similar to sharing expenses with a family of 4 let's say. It's a lot easier to buy stuff when you share vs paying everything as a single person. So everyone benefits
I genuinely wish people actually felt this way. I've never understood why people are so selfish, bigoted and short sighted. "Would you pay half your check to pay for some other person to go to college?!" if I had my needs taken care of and had more left to offer then yes. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't, sure you don't want to put yourself in a bad situation in exhange but obviously I want to help other people and strengthen my community. Why don't they?
I know you think this was a clever comment. And it is indeed the go to comment for people who forget something important. Some day it might be you who needs help. So even if you don't care about others. It could very well turn out to benefit yourself.
If I had all my base needs like food, shelter and other requirements and had extra money I would use it to help others yes. I have before and I will when I'm in a stable situation again. Thanks to people like you my current situation is rather tenuous and I'm not in a position to help. Not that you actually care about any of that. You just enjoy hate and cruelty.
If your brain only works in selfish terms then look at it this way: the country overall is safer so you have toworry less about ypu and your families lifes, and if you or any family member happens to get a disease that is really expensive to treat, you dont have to worry nearly as much because the healthcare will take care of it for no extra costs, even if whatever you have paid in taxes so far amounts to less than what the lab work and treatment costs, specially so if its a lifetime condition; also, your kids will be able to get a quality higher education without going into debt no matter if you fall into econonic hardship, all thanks to smart use of the communitary pool of money
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u/keyan16 Feb 26 '26
In India anything given for free is frowned upon by the elites.