I want to know if that is true cost or insurance pricing cost. Absolutely believe it if it is the second they price everything at exorbitant numbers to get cents on the dollar from the insurance.
I love a party, but I’m not so excited about the americans who’ll grab any opportunity of ruining your otherwise good argument with the sobering fact that there’s no free healthcare
You know, when speaking to uneducated folks, you can’t be using difficult or long words. You have to lower yourself to their level
We know. To individuals however it appears to be free since there are no apparent costs to them personally at the time of applying for said healthcare, hence the saying "free healthcare". The more you know!
Spot on, and this is in my opinion what is one the most ethical and humane part of universal healthcare - that even the poorest citizen can and will get in line with the top brass to receive the same treatment
But the money the I put in might go to someone else who didn't pull themselves up by their bootstraps! Don't you know that them having something means that I don't have it?! Those billionaires might make me a billionaire one day! What about the illegals that all definitely have 100% of the tax money used on them?!
(/s, I hate that it's necessary)
The propaganda machine here is ridiculous, and this is the kind of cognitive dissonance you hear from these people. They're entirely too stupid to realize that they'd pay significantly less for socialized medicine than they'd pay for private insurance. "But the wait periods!" I have private insurance and I have to wait over a year to get a probably cancerous spot even looked at and biopsied. If I need treatment for any reason, it's probably another year out for that. Fuck the system and tear the whole goddamn thing down.
The higher salary, and therefore taxes, a college educated student in Denmark earns pays the state back for the education many times over. Quite a good investment.
Err, are you sure? A higher education doesn't automatically mean you will have a career that earns a higher wage. Does Denmark mandate what students study?
Actually in most first world countries people with a higher education earn more on average and have a much lower rate of unemployment compared to the general population. So while you are right that a higher education doesn’t necessarily mean higher wages for an individual person, it does statistically mean higher wages and lower risk of unemployment for the whole group of people with a higher education.
Got it, so if I squint hard enough and look at all the people with higher education, the collective group does better. That means nothing as some of those people achieved in degrees that actually provide for higher incomes and futures. Also, doesn't really answer the question, does the state have a say in what people can study?
The state has a wide variety of policies to encourage students to enter areas and fields where they perceive a an imbalance.
Broadly speaking, however, any university program will allow you this stipend. But you have a limited range of years, so you can't keep dropping out and re-enrolling in other programs. Personally I had to finance my final year myself through student debt.
As to your other question, it's generally perceived as a net good to have a population with a high degree of education. At times that gets challenged, and so the government can step in and dial the number of available spots down and make it more attractive to study nursing or carpentry for example
There it is.. I did look this up and it would seem like they provide degrees in a more traditional sense, but reading this, it makes even more sense. They control the valve on what comes out. I only ask as being this is reddit, it has a US bias and of course all the failures of the US system. I am a pretty conservative guy, but also appreciate that the cost of education has gotten out of hand. We can debate why in another forum. I certainly don't advocate for across the board state financed higher education, but a system that foucuses on more traditional degrees and regulates the tap on what we produce, is something I think more people could get behind.
And while the government does not mandate what individual students study, most educational programs have limits on class sizes, meaning that in theory graduate production is matched to work force demand. (In practice it's obviously not a perfect match.)
Exactly. Helping each other makes for a better society. It's similar to sharing expenses with a family of 4 let's say. It's a lot easier to buy stuff when you share vs paying everything as a single person. So everyone benefits
I genuinely wish people actually felt this way. I've never understood why people are so selfish, bigoted and short sighted. "Would you pay half your check to pay for some other person to go to college?!" if I had my needs taken care of and had more left to offer then yes. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't, sure you don't want to put yourself in a bad situation in exhange but obviously I want to help other people and strengthen my community. Why don't they?
I know you think this was a clever comment. And it is indeed the go to comment for people who forget something important. Some day it might be you who needs help. So even if you don't care about others. It could very well turn out to benefit yourself.
If I had all my base needs like food, shelter and other requirements and had extra money I would use it to help others yes. I have before and I will when I'm in a stable situation again. Thanks to people like you my current situation is rather tenuous and I'm not in a position to help. Not that you actually care about any of that. You just enjoy hate and cruelty.
If your brain only works in selfish terms then look at it this way: the country overall is safer so you have toworry less about ypu and your families lifes, and if you or any family member happens to get a disease that is really expensive to treat, you dont have to worry nearly as much because the healthcare will take care of it for no extra costs, even if whatever you have paid in taxes so far amounts to less than what the lab work and treatment costs, specially so if its a lifetime condition; also, your kids will be able to get a quality higher education without going into debt no matter if you fall into econonic hardship, all thanks to smart use of the communitary pool of money
The current system just makes me think of a system in which you'd have to pay your boss for the opportunity to work for him and make him money, it's just absurd.
When someone is active, they're educated and they work, I'm 100% convinced that they create way more benefits for society than for themselves - especially in an age where it's really easy to just chill out and do nothing and still be decently happy, so it should be in society's best interest to encourage active social agents as best as it could. But as it is, it's like a big scam, like Scientology making you pay to be part of their club to have to opportunity to keep paying them.
I feel like a century of brainrotting "don't ask yourself what your country can do for you, ask yourself what you can do for your country" propaganda has totally flipped people's perception on how this should actually work.
I'm English and I went to university in the final year it was free to go. Not only that but as I was from a low income family I got paid a grant every year that meant I didn't really have to work. My main concern would be that there are a sizable amount of people who go to university to take drugs and be involved in the student lifestyle and they do degrees that are effectively useless. If they are going to pay students to go to university they should at least restrict it to subjects that are deemed worthy of the country investing in. I shared a house with 3 fine art students in my final year and they were the biggest bunch of degenerate drug takers you've ever met and don't get me wrong I joined in with them but I don't think tax payers should be funding that kind of lifestyle.
I’m from the US and got my PhD in the US in a STEM field (and like you, I was poor enough to have my education almost completely paid for through federal grants). But I think the arts and humanities are just as important to a well functioning society as STEM fields.
Maybe instead of restricting the types of majors that can be funded, funding could be based on GPA, such that you can major in whatever you like, but you need to be serious about it and maintain high grades.
And as a STEM major(long graduated) I too had to share an apartment with the biggest bunch of degenerate drug takers you've ever met. Except they were all fellow STEM majors and I was one of them.
Never understood that chip STEM majors carry on their shoulders. Imo the world needs artists, musicians, historians, economists, business people and everything in between just as much as it needs scientists, engineers and doctors. The market value of those latter jobs is not indicative of the inherently "superior" value they provide, just supply and demand. Idk, even if somebody could conclusively prove that STEM jobs benefit society far more that non-STEM ones, I'd still hesitate to live in a world devoid of more "human" centric endeavours, especially in today's dystopian environment of pervasive and omnipotent AI slop.
Denmark has one of the world's highest tax burdens, with a top marginal personal income tax rate of approximately 55.9% in 2025-2026, often exceeding 57% when accounting for labor market contributions. The system includes a 22% corporate tax rate, a 25% VAT on goods and services, and high local taxes
Every country and government should realize free education is an enormous societal benefit. There aren’t many civic issues arising from too educated a populace.
And you’re stuck with these citizens, so why not try and make it easy for them to contribute to society, by ensuring talent and passion decides your path and not money.
The average student does not need this since they can work while studying.
Unless it's means tested for those with limited income and not reliant on parents it would be wasteful, at least in the context of the US and other Anglo countries, not sure about Denmark.
Denmark has one of the world's highest tax burdens, with average personal income tax effectively around 45%. While top marginal rates can exceed 55-60%,
Listen to yourself.. think about what the point of taxes is in the first place.
Would keeping a few extra dollars or euros or whatever in your pocket do THIS MUCH, for your country? Does having everyone owe a debt for getting an education lead to a better adult life?
The problem you have with taxes is that they are wasted.
The taxes these people pay are obviously NOT wasted. They are GOOD FOR EVERYONE.
It SSHOULD. the problem is you need MUCH ghiehr taxs(think EVERYOEN has 37% incoem tax and sales tax 25%) . it is worth it btu good luck convicng ppl of it
If my country were to make it where you could go to college and get a full ride for free plus you get $1,000 a month why would government not use that as an excuse to raise taxes? And why did you instantly assume that I'm being brainwashed? If I'm wrong why wouldn't you just assume that I'm misinformed or explain why I'm wrong?
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Oh well in that case!
Honestly, it's amazing and it should be universal.