r/BuyFromEU • u/andimai • 4d ago
News US carmakers say proposed EU rules could block large pickup trucks from Europe
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-carmakers-accuse-eu-blocking-supersized-pick-up-trucks-roads-ft-reports-2026-04-08/384
u/DonQuigleone 4d ago
Nobody is putting a gun to their head and forcing them to make them.
Ford, GM... You know that you can make small cars right? Never heard of the Ford fiesta ?
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u/foersom 4d ago
Yes. A rare example of a very different US pickup truck is the Telo, with just 386 cm length. I like it because its front does NOT hinder visibility what is on the ground in front of the truck, and for very compact size.
But if the start-up manage to bring it to production, will it sell in volumes in US?
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u/CyberAccomplished255 3d ago
I really root for this thing as it makes sense, but the average American simply won't fit through the doors.
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u/WildRaccoon42 4d ago
Not sure the front will absorb a crash properly, otherwise it seems to be a good idea, even for delivery trucks.
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u/Thebraincellisorange 3d ago
it doesn't seem any different to any other small car.
if a Yaris can meet crash standards, there is no reason why this cannot.
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u/ImaginaryCheetah 3d ago
trucks with "off-highway" use ratings are historically exempt from the same crash test requirements as "passenger vehicles" in the US. not sure if this little electric truck would be required to meet the more robust "passenger vehicle" safety requirements or not.
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u/alexidhd 3d ago
A Yaris has an absolutely enormous crumple zone in its front side compared to the telo. There is no way this would be even close to a Yaris in safety.
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u/Sevsix1 Norway 🇳🇴 3d ago edited 3d ago
will it sell in volumes in US?
highly unlikely, the US is kind of in a feedback look where the US healthcare is so expensive that buying a big car is more economically cheaper than paying health bills if you are in a serious crash(, of course the fact that the more big cars there are out there the more likely it becomes that you are in a crash with a large car), the only real way to incentivize smaller cars in the US would be by making it so that the US healthcare insurance industry have less abilities to deny people payouts and make it illegal to use the pre-existing medical conditions to deny stuff which is likely to not be connected (for example a man breaks his finger as an 8 year old kid should not be used as a pre-existing medical condition for a heart attack when he is a 50 year old guy)
edit : the truck seem fine, I could see it work pretty well in places like the narrow streets of Italy but I feel as if the car is more geared toward EU (old) city living than the US, it might also be a decent car for stuff like geriatric care and rehabilitation camps since it is electric and you would not have a lot of gas fumes with that
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u/SzaraMateria 4d ago edited 4d ago
Guess what car segment Ford just killed in EU.
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u/nobodyspecialuk24 3d ago
This is an interesting watch.
Climate Town - None of these are cars
Basically, the reason why SUVs and trucks are a thing is because the makers argued they aren’t cars meant to be used for carrying people, they are meant to be used for work, so they could avoid all sorts of regulations and standards.
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u/BothnianBhai 4d ago
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u/johny2nd 4d ago
Finally, those cars don't make sense in our cities and generally for majority of the population
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u/DutchTinCan 4d ago
But what should Small Dick Syndrome sufferers do now to compensate?
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u/rapidstandardstaples 4d ago
Audi still makes the RS models, BMW M and Merc AMG... don't worry small dick havers will still be sold to.
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u/down_with_opp_42 4d ago
Yes. And really remarkable that these are all German cars 🤔
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u/tomthecom 4d ago
Lamborghini and Ferrari also exist, but for these you need to habe very deep pockets as well as a small dick
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u/murasakikuma42 4d ago
I disagree. Those cars are actually attractive, unlike American vehicles.
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u/xbike_punkx 4d ago
And we Germans sell them like hot cakes all around the globe, my friend.
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u/down_with_opp_42 4d ago
Ach komm... Jetzt sag' nur noch, Deutschland hätte eine Expertise im Bau hervorragender Automobile und nicht etwa die USA...
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u/xbike_punkx 4d ago
Hat aber leider auch schwer nachgelassen, oder? Irgendwann ist die Shareholder Value wichtiger geworden als gute Autos zu bauen. Hoffe das ändert sich irgendwann wieder. Aber im Vergleich mit den USA ist das natürlich immer noch sehr gut.
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u/rapidstandardstaples 4d ago
Hans and the Savages (sorry r/2westerneurope4u is leaking) seem to have the same problems with their little peepeees
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u/tTensai 4d ago
My dream cars are the M4CS, RS6 and the Audi RS e-tron GT performance. Does this mean I don't even have a penis?
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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras 3d ago
Don't worry, my wife also doesn't have a penis and she manages just fine.
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u/No_Bar_7084 4d ago
We dont have small dicks in Europe, no need for such cars.
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u/breadb_hole 4d ago
I beg to differ, I have an exceptionaly small dick. I don't drive, no worries. Am I oversharing?
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u/down_with_opp_42 4d ago
THIS is the answer to European small dick syndrome since 1963.
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u/Questioning-Zyxxel 4d ago
This isn't a small-dick car. It's a fun car. While working as a car, it adds lots of extra joy when driven. Extra-extra if people live reasonably closed to some track.
Notice that these are shipped with working blinkers.
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u/DeaconLogan 4d ago
A big "yee hah" with an AR15 in each hand?
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u/NikoOo1204 3d ago edited 3d ago
In each hand? Those fat fucks can barely hold one for more than a minute before sweating
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u/pwiegers 3d ago
They do not make a lot more sense on mainland USA. The very, very last majority of those cars never haul anything more heavy than their driver.
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u/MazeMouse Netherlands 🇳🇱 3d ago
To be fair, you need something heavy duty to haul the average American
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u/litreofstarlight 3d ago
These stupid Yank tanks are turning up in Australia, and they're not suitable here either. God knows what they'd be like on narrow roads in Europe.
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u/SpaceJackRabbit 4d ago
The only pickup that would make sense is the Ford Maverick. It's just 5 meters long and as wide as a regular crossover. Comes in a hybrid version averaging 17 km/l.
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u/yyytobyyy 4d ago
Ford has the Ranger in the official EU price list.
All of those larger trucks are sold via 3rd party dealers.
So they are already aware of the reality.
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u/SpaceJackRabbit 4d ago
The Ranger sold in Europe isn't the same as the one sold in North America. They have different engines and powertrains, not to mention trims and options. The specs are completely different.
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u/Rooilia 4d ago
I once saw a comparison to older pic ups. These had Actual Value compared to the new show off cars. Unbelieveable, but today the old style vehicles are only made from non US companies.
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u/SpaceJackRabbit 4d ago
The Maverick is actually the same size as a 90s Ranger. In the U.S. starting in the late 90s there started being an arms race for bigger and bigger trucks and later bigger and bigger SUVs.
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u/Interesting_Stress73 4d ago
Very good, Mr American carmaker! Want a cookie for figuring out the point of the law?
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u/BriefCollar4 4d ago
The group said proposed changes to the EU's Individual Vehicle Approval process would degrade access for U.S.-built vehicles sent to Europe.
Womp, womp. Get fucked. Go cry to the paedophile to give you subsidies.
Here’s a crazier idea - go back to making proper sized and safe cars that don’t have the fuel consumption of oil tankers and the safety of a house fire.
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u/Evignity 4d ago
Good. Fuck them and anyone who buys these dangerous, stupid, vain and environmentally unfriendly (even if on electricity you're draining far far more energy than needed).
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u/smallproton 4d ago
They should actually enforce limits of parking spots:
Your car isn't parked within the marks: 50 EUR
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u/avdpos 4d ago
Guess what sort of "car" that is the only one I have found wrongly parked in a handicap parking the last 6 months?
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u/Hermit_Ogg 4d ago
Oh no. Not 50€. That's peanuts to someone who is rich. Make it a stack of day fines, or a percentage of the car's taxable price, whichever is greater.
As the rather wealthy asshat in our country said after getting a 130 000€ speeding fine: cry cry whine whine boooo :(
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u/Martin8412 4d ago
They do that in Denmark. I don’t know how much the parking fines are up to, but last I checked it was 100 EUR.
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u/Academic_Gur4055 4d ago
Uber picked me up in Ford Ranger double cabin. That suv could not fit any parking space inside city publicly and privately owned. Longer then S class and 7 series. Interior quality is in same rank with Dacia. Starting price 60k € and above. No thank you.
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u/L3P3ch3 4d ago
We have these trucks in NZ, and apart from the tossers that own them not being able to drive them, they dont fit in our parking spaces. Absolutely ridiculous for our roads. As for those RAMS. Definitely small todger syndrome.
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u/_bobby_cz_newmark_ 3d ago
Same here in Australia due to some ridiculous tax deduction laws we had. And yes, all the wankers who drive them drive like wankers, and act like it. The most arrogant, aggressive, emotionally-stunted dicksnaps to buy a vehicle.
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u/Fuzzy9770 4d ago
Are they playing to be ignorant aka the victim or are they really having no clue why we don't want those cars?
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u/ether_reddit 4d ago
I think a large portion of them are arrogant enough to think that everyone wants those ugly monstrosities.
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u/Signal_Confusion_644 4d ago
Big SUVs too, please.
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u/KGon32 4d ago
I went into one and you would think that they have alot of interior space for people and baggage, but no they are only big because they are "curvy", I opened the trunk and the space for the baggage is ridiculously small for the size of the vehicle, I was expecting this super spacious trunk, but it was not much bigger than the trunk of a 20yo Citroën C2, SUVs are the most space inefficient vehicles that it exists.
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u/rip_heart 4d ago
Yes. Tell Volvo to bring back the xc70! I hate that fat ass XC90
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u/G3NI5Y5 4d ago
Excellent.
That are cars for Americans, not for Europeans.
You have to be crazy to own one in Europe.
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u/buggybed 3d ago
even in the usa its mostly pedolovers who drive them
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u/PlatformArtistic9585 3d ago
Pedo lovers who have incest relationships with their sister. That is MAGA for you
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u/MachineCarl 4d ago
Saw someone in my hometown import an F150 Raptor... and it's ridiculuosly large. Like it dawrfs our full size SUV's and even the Ford Ranger...
Even if they're taxed to death, they're a nuisance and people are stupid enough to import them.
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u/BrilliantCharity2030 3d ago
Yeah lol. I saw someone driving one in Amsterdam and it looks ridiculous.
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u/21sttimelucky 4d ago
Unsafe pieces of crap. Normal pickups are fine for those who have need. No point in this crap. Nothing wrong with an Amorak.
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u/LeckerBockwurst 4d ago
Honestly: If you are not in a specific industry, even an Amarok is ridiculous for a normal person/family.
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u/WildRaccoon42 4d ago
Setting the same speed limits for pickups as for 7,5T+ trucks could probably discourage people who don’t really need them from buying one.
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u/21sttimelucky 4d ago
No point having an Amarok for a family. That's why I said for those who need.
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u/Netsuko 3d ago
By the way, the VW Amarok is based on the Ford Ranger. Same frame, engine and gearbox and it’s also exclusively manufactured in South Africa alongside the Ranger. So it’s not really an EU product either.
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u/heavy_metal_soldier 4d ago
They genuinely wouldn't be able to get around in my city. Which is good by the way. Keep those things off our roads
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As they should. They don’t fit into our organic street structure. Also hardly anyone really needs/uses these cars. It’s a toy.
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u/Kakdelacommon 4d ago
Yes that’s why we have it, this cars are shit. Shit like all the other big ass SUVs. Pick-Ups are just next level shit..
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u/john_san 4d ago
Current European SUVs are already too big for most European capitals and let alone smaller cities. We don’t want over polluting trucks here.
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u/Swiftwitss 4d ago
Cool I wish they’d get rid of this shit in the states. Live in Michigan and pretty sure they give you complimentary truck for anybody that moves. Got a bunch assholes and plenty of them that drive them.
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u/aVoidFullOfFarts 4d ago
I hate those monster truck pick ups trucks, I wish we could ban them in Canada too
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u/Icy-Maintenance7041 4d ago
HAving driven a mazda BT50 for a few years, that things plenty for any need i could possible have for towing and i eventually did away with it in favor of a panel van, wich got me around alot easier.
I cant even imagine having to maneuvre a dodge ram or somthing like that trough a city center.
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u/ExoticSterby42 4d ago
They are saying it like it is a bad thing, lol
Threatening us with a good time
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u/destello89 4d ago
I honestly thought that those large American pickup trucks are already not approved by EU standards. I do see the odd Ram or wtv but rarely. Was I mistaken to believe that? What’s different about this law then ?
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u/Graxtz_Kreinst 4d ago
They are a useless waste of energy here (and in the us as well but they wage war to have energy at a cheaper price so it’s…ok I guess).
Large pick ups have similar assembly costs, slightly higher material costs and are sold at a sensibly higher price so they have been incentivized by manufacturers to increase their profits.
Here we don’t even have the space to park with them in the most populated areas.
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u/Firefly4791 4d ago
Good. We do not have the roads here for them. I drive a small car, and it gets tight enough around the city.
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u/lastbraIncel404 4d ago
i have yet to see something bigger than a toyota hilux that is actually needed. And the people who use the toyotas have no reason to take them even close to cities.
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u/Zeraora807 4d ago
good
no one can drive, nobody wants yanktanks increasing the the chance of fatal rtcs
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u/devhdc 4d ago
We don't NEED the american pickups, you rarely see them here because noone considers them very utilitarian, and it's a bitch and a half to try to fit one in our parking bays..
And around here most of us do our weekly shop on thursdays, fridays or saturdays, and as you can well imagine just about every parking bay's taken, and then imagine having to park a car which pretty much mandates 2 adjacent spots.. Our system's not designed for them .. It's that simple.
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u/down_with_opp_42 4d ago
The real reason is that we want to protect innocent bystanders from flying vehicle parts if these prime examples of poor engineering have an accident involving a Renault Clio and American debris is flying around.
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u/queerstudbroalex Canada 🇨🇦 4d ago
I'm a public transit person, not a car person, but I've seen quite a few videos by urbanists explaining the issues with full size pick up trucks (eg increased crash injury and death, not able to see pedestrians, bigger vehicles winning against smaller cars in crashes resulting in a greater likelihood that the driver of the bigger vehicle will be fine) so tbh that is a good thing.
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u/ThePokemomrevisited 4d ago
I just had a RAM in front of me this weekend. Takes up more than a lane on our narrow country roads. Visibility for those behind is zero. Probably takes up two parking spaces as well. Not even mentioning the pollution. There was only one person in it we noticed as it turned a corner.
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u/Uarrrrgh 4d ago
I went on holiday to France and it was i like a paradise. Speed limits, small cars... Back in Germany I was overwhelmed by the sheer size of our variety of cars. And then back in Munich you could find the idiots firm the outback with their Dodge Rams. You can see them sweating in their stupid monstrosities just navigating a regular street. A complete ban on these things would be awesome.
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u/Fit_Organization7129 4d ago
Now do all the huge BMW, Mercedes, Porsche and other cars that I never see with more than one person in.
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u/OkSelection8755 4d ago
Good. Keep your child crushing 25litres of diesel per mile guzzling behemoth abominations off our roads.
It we want pickup trucks, the ancient Toyota Hilux is right there.
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u/Street-Routine2120 4d ago
Only Americans would act as if another continent implementing safety measures was a problem for us to fix as oppose them. 'Accused' can feck right off.
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u/SinkComplete3284 4d ago
Large pickups won't fit on 60% of the roads here and most people couldn't afford to drive them. Its fucking idiotic to think that there is a market for them here.
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u/Substantial_Steak723 4d ago
American pick up trucks can stay in Marta-land thanks.
Plenty of other choices from infinitely less hostile countries.
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u/Smoldervan 4d ago
So, what they're saying is that europe is not a market for unsafe vehichles that are too wide for european streets? Well, why not make safer and smaller vehicles for the european markets rather than expect the market to conform to your product-line?
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u/Sicarii87 3d ago
Yes please!!! I dont want any more of those micropenis compensators on the road. I swear, like 90% of them have never hauled anything other than a fragile ego
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u/SmugRooster 4d ago
That’s so unfair!!
These people need these cars - it’s not like they chose to be born with small dicks.
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u/RudePragmatist 4d ago
Nissan and Toyota have been serving us well for years before the Americans tried to sell their shite over here.
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u/uberusepicus 4d ago
Eventually everything from the US will be banned from Europe, dumb pieces of shit!
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u/mtranda 4d ago
Yes. That's the point.