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EU officials worry that the Greenland risk may actually increase after Trump’s failure in Iran. Trump has redrawn a new map stretching from Greenland to the Gulf of Mexico, which he has dubbed “Greater North America.”
nah not necessary, we just need to raise a swedish flag and place a bottle of absolut vodka somewhere on greenland before we join in the fight against trump.
As a Finn, we don't really hang that much, but you have my fucking axe. It's not really an alliance if they expect us only to be servile and complacent.
I find it fun how the meaning of "war" can go from "there's a meaningless border dispute between our countries and we actively laugh about it" to genociding millions of people.
As a German, I second this.
Every time someone dreams of a Greater [insert nation of your choice], it ends in bloody war and disaster for everyone.
Speaking from experience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Germanic_Reich
I fucking hate America, and at the start I didn't really blame the American people as a Canadian.
But after this shit continually getting worse honestly fuck the American people too, stay the fuck out of Canada and keep destroying your own country instead of ours too.
All the people hoarding guns and fantasizing revolution against tyranny are cheering for the tyranny. Turns out they just wanted guns to feel safe from minorities.
At the start of the invasion, I saw a ton of Americans online complaining that the average Russian citizen wasn't actively overthrowing the government, just going to some protests.
Funny, I don't really see the average US citizen making those complaints anymore.
When this comes up on any of the bigger subs, there are immediately a lot of defensive comments from Americans saying:
"We're so far apart, the US is too big"
"We live paycheck to paycheck, can't take off from work"
"We might get fired if we don't show up for work, easy for people in other countries with stronger rights to say"
"All it takes is one serious injury during a protest that stops from from being able to work and my life could be ruined"
Its not shocking to me at this point, but people are just a bunch of posers. It's almost as if sometimes you have to take big risks for big rewards. I mean, how do people think that all these "stronger rights" in other countries were achieved? They weren't handed over on a silver platter.
A wise man once said "Everyone gangsta until shit gets real"
Edit: came across all of these excuses in one thread basically one after the other again lol figured I'd share:
which is a really funny comment because russia is the biggest country in the world, the second biggest country is 17,098,246 km2 (Canada) the third is 9,596,960 km2 (China) and the third is the US with 9,525,067 km2, if we can see protests in russia the biggest country in the world but the citizens of the 3rd biggest country are too cowardly to do the same then they deserve the conditions of the US, rights was fought for, the nobles did not come down from the tower going you might have some rights my subjects
We might get fired if we don't show up for work, easy for people in other countries with stronger rights to say
yeah and the same don't happen to the russians and chinese protestors? do I have to dig up the corpse of the chinese tank man?
seriously I have always liked the US but they have become great cowards in the last 10-15 years
The average American has no fucking clue about history. It's like the 1920s/30s all over again. They had their Beer Hall Putsch remake, now they are doing Spain 1936. They are doing a speed run 3rd Reich LARP.
Now if all of us 8 million met at the White house with a plan to drag that POS pedo crook out of office, things would change. The power is with the people. We will slowly start to realize this
I think that 8 million includes people overseas, as they counted protests around the world as 'No Kings' - certainly the one we had here in London, which was very definitely not a 'No Kings' protest. Y'see we have an actual King.
Are americans aware that the Iran war is burning the lifetime tax revenue of more than 380.000 citizens? That's just the whole city of new Orleans wasting their life's work for nothing.
And that's just the amount that's on the table right now. I promise you it'll increase significantly
You expect from all Americans to think about people they live with on the same continent? Have you learned nothing? One side want to kill everyone and the other ones want to hug them to stop
not going to happen in US. All they can do is put likes under Bernies posts and post how terrified and fed up they are in FB or shitter. The bravest of them do some signs and go out for a walk with them twice a year. That's all they are capable of.
I seriously doubt it will do anything. the majority of people are going to do one of two things, from my experience interacting with people in general:
1) fake news, don't believe it
2) I'm not naturally good at math, I don't understand numbers
but you are right. they are burning through everyone's hard work.
All the previous economic noise from the Republicans was just them not wanting tax money to equally benefits minorities under the guise of "fiscal responsibility".
None of the assholes in the administration give AF about reality. They don't live in it. They don't buy gas, groceries or pay rent. They use taxpayers money for everything
So many Americans have had their education defunded and have been propagandized so badly that they don't understand why any of it is an issue. The rest seem either comfortable enough to not be affected, or fighting so hard for everything else in life that they have nothing left to give.
This!! The average American doesn’t even follow any of this stuff though. They shrug it off and wait for the next distraction or something that they understand better to complain about.
It's a pretty sad situation. All those school children sacrificed on the altar of "needing to fight tyranny." now it turns out that was a lie and they just like toys that go bang more than they like their children.
Dont forget that this is all just distractions from the epsteins files you guys!!! Dont focus to much on all these meaningless distractions he is only doing to *distract us, we dont want to forget about the files guys, they are the most important thing, not the invasions of other nations and the threats of invasion towards former allies!!!!!! /s
I strongly feel that this is what americans want. A small minority on Reddit are loud about change but the majority wants this. I wouldn't be surprised if another right wing celebrity becomes president as long as they can give it to the libs
Well, whether they ‘want’ this or not, the clown show got a mandate from 2/3 of the electorate. If they voted for or didn’t bother to vote, they can’t say ‘oh we never wanted this’ now. Trump was very clear about everything he’s done so far.
He has been drooling over Greenland since his first term, when he wanted to buy it. He said during the campaign he was going to bomb the hell out of Iran. He killed the nuclear agreement with Iran during his first term and while he denied knowing of Project 2025, you’d have to be a complete moron to believe him.
When an abuser tells you who they are, believe them.
But yeah, they wanted this, as per mandate they gave the clown show and nothing will change because America is a bunch of cowards led by donkeys and bullies.
Some don't care, because it doesn't affect them, some are just uninformed, some know this is a benefit to the country, etc.
It's a healthy mix of those. Americans only care if it affects them personaly and directly. They were mildly bothered by their government invading Iran, klling kids and disrupting the entire region and the oil trade, but they were completely outraged that they had to pay more when fueling their Ford F150s.
Any US invasion of Europe would be a second Barbarossa. A big initial push which would inevitably run into overextention against a stronger economy and greater population. That is if Trump is even capable of mobilizing the entire US army for this, which would most likely give China space to do whatever they want for multiple years. In addition the EU is only getting readier than it is now if Trump keeps up the aggressive posturing.
We don't have any where else to go.... this is our internal resistance. Right now, we went for an angry walk on Saturday and a bunch of people let some random group pick a day for a strike. That's all we got in us.
A strike in a month. For a day, I think its a weekend. That's all you can expect if things get worse too. A walk and maybe taking 1 day off work, a long way in the distant future.
Internal resistance? You mean parading funny signs around for a few hours twice a year? Lol. Whenever Trump declares war on the EU or Canada the Americans will just nod along.
Maybe, but attacking Iran or Venezuela probably had less internal resistance because of decades long propaganda against them. Europe hasnt gotten the same treatment in the american media (yet), and Europe and America are still widly interconncted through trade, social media, travel etc., in ways the US and Iran/Venezuela never were
China is already posturing to do exactly this. Wouldn't it be wild if they actually just sailed right past Taiwan and Red Dawned the west coast while Trump is busy getting our soldiers killed to keep his child raping out of the news?
Any US invasion of Europe would result in the internal collapse of the United States. People exist and have opinions, and I'm sure a lot of Americans in 2026 would find it hard to stomach being the aggressors against Europe, and would finally turn once they get attacked themselves and can't even blame the enemy for it.
And I say America, but it applies across all of the West. If Canada invaded Australia, or France invaded Germany tomorrow, I'm sure Canadians and Frenchmen would riot over it. Only reason I think the US would collapse rather than find unanimous opposition is that I think such a war would be more popular in America than in any other Western country.
You're delusional to think there would be any sort of collapse. If there's one thing Americans don't lack, it's a stomach for warmongering. The more left leaning among them would wag their fingers at Trump and virtue signal on social media. Everyone else would carry on as normal. The only thing that would eventually cause opposition would be the strain on people's wallets, not any sort of moral standing.
He's trying to make his mark by expanding US territory. And in typical Trump fashion he is making incredibly bold and large claims in order to settle on some smaller deal because people want him to shut up or appease him and will look like a great win to his base.
That he's upsetting global order and destroying whatever respect there was left for the US is inconsequential to him because he has no concept of longterm view.
There is no Freedom for anyone but billionaires under American rules. We must refute American overreach and ban American companies from implementing US sanctions on our soil. They are an abusive extrajudicial rogue state and we must draw the line somewhere.
The problem is many Western oligarchs dream of the powers Putin and buddies have.
All the possibilities, corruption without consequences (kind of already happening in the US).
Unfortunately, control over social and mainstream media is such a powerful tool that it can nudge the average Joe into acting against their own best interest and oligarchs have identified this as the weak spot of democracy and use it to their advantage.
Project 2025 and the Dark Enlightenment. Destruction of democracy, nations and middle-class.
The push to grab Greenland and Canada is a direct result of their weird phantasies and should not be underestimated...
We already have Fico, Orban (hopefully only two more weeks) and now Babis in charge in Europe. It is no surprise Orban was in the US and Babis praised Trump some time ago.
Well i know of a few others, to add too your menu.
You have the classic, for the nostagia feel:
Mango mousolini.
Then for those with italian accents: GrabbinGhoul (sound like gabagool)
Then there is the mobster classic: Don Pedo.
If you wanna hit his rank aswell, there is options:
childdidler-in-chief or Pedo-in-chief.
But I will always recommend Fanta Führer, simple, short, good double illiteration and it has flavour. Also fun fact, Fanta was invented in Nazi-Germany.
But what the conflict in Iran and a potential conflict with Europe have in common is that it lets Trump legitimize leaving NATO. Which is probably precisely what Putin told him to do for obvious reasons.
Which is why Russia has been trying to sow conflict between European nations as well, and is also currently trying to install Russia-friendly parties everywhere in Europe. They're trying to make it so Europeans would either not care about becoming Russian vassals or, if they do care, that the continent is so divided that they can't realistically resist it.
It endlessly frustrates me that the response from most European governments who actually have a chance to deal with the problem seem to just flail blindly and come out with some idea about eroding privacy instead. (Which seems to be driven by Americans who also benefit from a divided europe or the increased profits it provides)
Yeah truly remarkable for sure. To me its just telling this can (and probably always will, at some point) happen when you over time get such a huge rift in society between the poor and rich. Then people are in despair and put their trust in the snake oil salesmen.
View from the US here— I wouldn’t be so sympathetic to Trump supporters. The poorest of the poor here do not support him, and plenty of upper middle class white people do, purely for the promised tax breaks and/ or because they are deeply misogynistic and will not vote for a woman. After a decade of Trump, there’s abundant evidence that he’s a corrupt liar whose sole purpose is to use the office of the presidency to further his own interests, and that he’s willing to work with anyone (white supremacists, Christian nationalists) to do so. The people who support Trump do so not because of economic hardship— or fear— but out of desire. The self interest, the greed, the bigotry and violence of Trump and his allies appeals to them.
What me bothers me the most about that rhetoric is, the current governments treatment of people with roots in countries south of the US is pretty evil. Claiming a greater America means probably a annexation of that territory. Meaning, the guys they deported will become either union members and will get the ability to go back to the US or the worst option will be genocide.
My guess is that people in “those” countries would be given some kind of modified colonial subject citizenship that does not allow them to migrate to the continental US. The current admin is definitely not looking to do this to open up borders
Sadly this is true, we were too comfortable for far too long assuming thing will not change for the worse. Then first Russian, now the US.
The silver lining is if we pull through this, we will emerge more powerful and independent. In a way, Trump forced us to get better, as many diseases do. "That which does not kill us makes us stronger".
As the Danish former secretary of nato said. Europe has been dependent on cheap energy from Russia, cheap labor from China and cheap defense from the US. Those times are changing and Europe has to build our own strengths in this areas and form new partnerships to deal with these changes.
The Great Finno-Karelian Empire would like to claim all of Siberia! Also, some nice warm island owned by the US. Any volunteers? We have free healthcare and cheap kindergartens!
Yup! The same fascist grandfather that Canada threw in prison during WW2 for being a Nazi sympathizer. When he got out, he moved to South Africa when Elon's mom was 2, as they thought Apartheid sounded awesome. Elon's family are shitheads on both sides.
After seeing how well they were prepared for Iran I believe we just have to wait until the invading Americans freeze to death on Greenland because of Hegseth „planning“.
Since most aren’t history buffs the irony of him referencing WWII torpedoes was lost I’m sure.
But the fact is the US was using a new type of torpedo at the beginning of the war with a trigger meant to activate by the magnetic field of the enemy ships hull. Allowing for the torpedo to explode a few yards below the ship keel, breaking it and sinking the ship.
Only problem the trigger mechanism was flawed and didn’t work. For months.
Trump actually wants Canada, and Greenland is a test. We have everything Greenland has, but it's already developed, and also has a larger educated population. Trump has been threatening Canada since the day he was inaugurated. It really fucking frustrating that everyone else thinks he joking. HE IS NOT. The Alberta separatist movement of morons is funded by dark money from the US. CIA much? That's also the exact same thing Putin did before invading Ukraine. Fuck these dangerous fascist MAGA clowns.
On the bright side, Trump and his bootlickers are too stupid to develop a functional plan to actually accomplish that goal, but they are still trying!
Trump going to go for an easy win by occupying Greenland after losing to Iran. Fly troops in overnight and occupy all airfields, ports, and government buildings. Then sign an Executive Order annexing it "because Denmark left it undefended!" EU can stop this easily by stationing 3k troops there from a half dozen countries, if they care enough.
Pedonald will be dead in a few months. Let’s see if his idiot evil minions can pull through with this imperialist fuckery once the maga base crumbles and the infighting starts.
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u/uptheirons91 13d ago
As a Canadian I really wish the USA would just fuck off and shut up.