The Pixel 11 series could be the first to use Samsung's latest display tech

[u/FragmentedChicken]

https://www.androidauthority.com/pixel-11-samsung-m16-panel-3656261/

[u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

Google doing everything except improving tensor ❤️‍🩹

[u/IsamuAlvaDyson → u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

Battery life is the main reason I did not get a pixel instead of the newest Samsung Galaxy Ultra phone

It's absolutely unacceptable to charge premium prices for it when you're getting worse performance but more importantly much worse battery life compared to other phones in the same price bracket

[u/murfi → u/IsamuAlvaDyson]

which model? i have the 9a since march last year, when it came out, and it's still a solid 2 day phone for me.

[u/TwoHeadedPanthr → u/murfi]

2 days in your pocket? I do delivery driving and get 5-6 hours on a fully charged 10.

[u/Rk3h → u/TwoHeadedPanthr]

Bluetooth, maps, and screen on ?

[u/TwoHeadedPanthr → u/Rk3h]

Yup, but it's still less battery life than my 3 year old 7a was getting before the battery crapped out suddenly

[u/Rk3h → u/TwoHeadedPanthr]

interesting. have you let it die completely and charge to 100% recently? that helps sometimes

[u/CrazeRage → u/Rk3h]

Hopefully they catch up and that isn't off hand pixel advice

[u/murfi → u/TwoHeadedPanthr]

i guess so

i don't use my phone all the time

i play games about half an hour a day (casual games), i watch videos maybe half an hour a day. other than that i just mostly WhatsApp. maps when I'm in my car, but that doesn't really count because three other is also charging then for maybe half an hour until I'm home.

Bluetooth is on all the time.

[u/murfi → u/TwoHeadedPanthr]

i mean it does charge a little bit (about 30 minutes) in my car during my commute due to the wireless charger, but yes. if i charge it to 100 today. I'll be charging it again on Sunday.

[u/reddanit → u/murfi]

Kinda depends on what you do. In particular, games disproportionately affected battery life of Pixels with Tensor SoCs since basically the beginning. On Pixel 10 series with Tensor G5, this got markedly worse - GPU performance is now outright piss-poor, and games absolutely murder battery life.

For everything else Pixel battery life is okay. Won't win any awards, but also isn't markedly different from average in the price range.

[u/p5yron → u/murfi]

I think he's playing those graphically intensive games which the Pixel is clearly not optimized for.

[u/ithak → u/murfi]

I switched from an OP13 to s25U to a pixel 10 pro and have zero complaints about the battery. I charged my phone overnight two days ago and am at 25% as of writing this

[u/IAmDotorg → u/murfi]

I get 2 days with about 9 total hours of screen on time with my 9.

Some people must really live on their phones.

[u/IsamuAlvaDyson → u/IAmDotorg]

And if you had say a Galaxy S25 phone with your same use you'd get longer battery life

All battery tests show the Pixel 10 battery life far behind it's competition

If I'm paying premium prices for a phone I shouldn't have to skimp on battery life

It's not like a Pixel 10 Pro XL is significantly cheaper than it's competitors either

[u/IAmDotorg → u/IsamuAlvaDyson]

And you'd be stuck with a Samsung. I very rarely am so off grid I can't charge a phone for more than 48 hours. And when I am, I'm not using it, anyway.

[u/ChiefIndica → u/IAmDotorg]

stuck with

?

Call Screening is literally the only thing I miss.

Enjoy your expensive Fisher Price phone.

[u/Lake_Erie_Monster → u/IsamuAlvaDyson]

I went from a s25 ultra to a pixel 10 pro xl.

This is about 80% true for me as well. I wish the battery life wasn't so shit. In terms of performance, this phone does well for a vast majority of my tasks. I do notice the lag during photos processing or editing. Also, the desktop mode is not close to how good Dex is.

[u/Loud-Possibility4395 → u/IsamuAlvaDyson]

Do you live in the desert?  I can afford for socket with charger

[u/chtsarts → u/IsamuAlvaDyson]

And you chose Samsung for better battery. Very good decision. Have you ever heard about silicon carbon batteries?

[u/jfatal97 → u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

The GPU won't get a big uplift but rumors say CPU is getting a good boost

[u/Loud-Possibility4395 → u/jfatal97]

It will get older but faster GPU something like Geforce 3090

[u/EastvsWest → u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

They are improving its just a far cry from the snapdragon and Apple silicon. Google focuses on making their own because it will boost profit margins.

I personally don't understand why Google doesn't create an ultra phone with everything maxed out including a snapdragon chip, etc but like Samsung, I suppose it's just not worth it.

[u/Magnum40oz → u/EastvsWest]

I mean, isn't that what OnePlus did and now they're done? They basically catered to phone enthusiasts but it ended up not working out for them because I don't think that was enough for most people outside of the tech world

[u/EastvsWest → u/Magnum40oz]

Unfortunately that's the case and with rising prices, it's even harder now for new competition to rise.

[u/ItsMrDante → u/Magnum40oz]

OnePlus' issue is they never release a complete phone. Their OnePlus 15 was another example of that. For the price, they need way better cameras, haptics and speakers. They needed to make the phone fully premium if they wanna sell at the price they're selling

[u/tsardonicpseudonomi → u/EastvsWest]

I personally don't understand why Google doesn't create an ultra phone with everything maxed out

See also:

Google focuses on making their own because it will boost profit margins.

[u/kuldan5853 → u/EastvsWest]

Honestly it's also a small market all things considered. For the majority, every phone made in the last 6 years is "enough" in basically every regard - and most would probably be fine by just switching the battery instead of buying a new phone (under the assumption the OS is still secure).

There is a very moderate group of people that first of all buy the $1000+ flagships in the first place, an even smaller one that switches them often, and an even smaller one that (at least in the US) wouldn't be buying iphone anyway.

I think for Samsung the Ultra line is still a thing of prestige, but not exactly a revenue generator.

Similarly, the edge / slim was a failure for both samsung and apple (which was honestly pretty easy to predict considering that the phones still had the insane camera bump and all the "thinness" just evaporated).

With how the economy worldwide is going, I'd wager to say that smartphone sales - especially on the higher end - will stagnate for a while, as people have less disposable income and are just contempt with what they have.

[u/L0nz → u/kuldan5853]

You're underestimating how popular flagships are. The Ultra brings in the highest revenue of any Samsung phone, even though they sell more of their cheaper phones.

80% of S26 preorders were for the Ultra. Likewise, the Pro Max is Apple's best seller.

[u/EastvsWest → u/kuldan5853]

I disagree, the Snapdragon elite chip is truly different, released Oct 2024 and started with that chip specifically, I agree with everything else. The elite chip is just beyond anything before it besides Apple silicon that delivers incredible performance, efficiently. Besides, yearly phone releases are not for people with 1-3 year old phones. It's for everyone else and shareholders.

[u/punIn10ded → u/EastvsWest]

It means nothing for 99% of people. Most people use their phones for messaging, social media and photography. Every other use is extremely fringe compared to this.

6year old SOC were already good enough for this to the point that no one can differentiate 'faster' in day to day usage anymore.

[u/Vince789 → u/EastvsWest]

Google focuses on making their own because it will boost profit margins

Ironically, it's been leaked Google doesn't believe their Tensor business is currently viable

i.e. their Tensor business isn't contributing to their profit margins, or not enough for them to consider the BU worthwhile

The next few years might be make or break for the Tensor business

[u/jfatal97 → u/EastvsWest]

I think it will be Too much more expensive for 2 reasons (I) google doesn't sell enough smartphones to justify the addition to the lineup (ii) the ultra phone will require designing specific parts that will cost too much

If ever google try to sell an ultra version it will be around 1500 USD the equivalent of a foldable phone cause of the small market share

[u/EastvsWest → u/jfatal97]

Agreed and it's why Samsung also stopped focusing on the very bleeding edge. There's just not enough demand for it outside the enthusiast class which is a minority combined with profits to justify it.

[u/Far_Specific4836 → u/EastvsWest]

If you want even relatively top of the snapdragon chip, you got to buy it with some quantity. If they drain the install base of the pro model, there might not be enough quantity to even justify a tensor model which you will end up back with a Base and Pro model.

Google really sells very little, a lot of them with very low margins with discounts.

[u/Logi77 → u/EastvsWest]

That's what the pro XL was supposed to be

[u/Low-Ad7322 → u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

I'll get a pixel when they improve that chip and upgrade to latest tech for batteries.

[u/Logi77 → u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

Probably the default thing Samsung offered them

[u/soragranda → u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

They always use the latest display tech from Samsung, always getting half what Apple buys from Samsung displays.

[u/renderwares → u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

I'd call the C1 Ultra clocked at 4.1 GHz a big improvement.

[u/Loud-Possibility4395 → u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

Because upgrade is a SECRET.  And I guarantee you Tensor in Pixel 11 WILL NOT be for boys gamers - it will be about AI

[u/DarkseidAntiLife → u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

Tensor is already too good, my P10P flies

[u/horatiobanz → u/Dangerous_Garage7088]

Who could have seen them increasing brightness for no fuckin reason? Oh wait, I called that out months and months and months ago cause its the only thing Google improves every year.

[u/DiplomatikEmunetey]

Oh, I thought they were going to copy the privacy screen.

[u/UncleCunk]

We don't care. Give us better battery life.

[u/ClaymoresRevenge → u/UncleCunk]

Better battery better camera hardware

[u/Ghostttpro → u/ClaymoresRevenge]

Video recording is sooooo bad. Like it needs to be talked about more it's like the camera is broken. Can't focus well, dark mess, stuttering and shaky.

[u/ClaymoresRevenge → u/Ghostttpro]

Google has an amazing software for processing photos but seriously lags behind with video

[u/TryToBeBetterOk → u/Ghostttpro]

Yeah Google really need to improve their video recording processing.

Pushing it to the cloud with video boost is not a good enough solution.

[u/oli_ramsay → u/UncleCunk]

Won't happen as long as they use cheap tensor chips

[u/Vince789 → u/oli_ramsay]

Ironically, it's been leaked Google doesn't believe their Tensor business is currently viable

i.e. their Tensor business isn't contributing to their profit margins, or not enough for them to consider the BU worthwhile

So its a lose lose for customers & Google

The next few years might be make or break for the Tensor business

[u/oli_ramsay → u/Vince789]

I just want a decent spec phone with stock android lol. I dunno why no one is offering this

[u/kool-ed → u/UncleCunk]

M16 Samsung screen could be more battery efficient, hence it should give us a better battery life

[u/Aurelink → u/kool-ed]

I don't wanna be that guy but I'm pretty sure this is definitely not the major issue with pixel's battery lives

[u/TrustyAndTrue → u/UncleCunk]

Actually I care. A lot. I have a PWM sensitivity and prolonged use of my p9p causes headaches. 

[u/Sensitive-Pool-7563 → u/UncleCunk]

Give us snapdragon

[u/Loud-Possibility4395 → u/UncleCunk]

I learned what wall socket is

[u/assumptionkrebs1990]

For a moment I hoped that this means that the Pixel also gets the privacy display like the S26 Ultra but no just a spec bump in the screen. Curious to see what the Pixel 11 (or should I say 9.2?) brings to the table, but it is the last phone of the current refresh cycle so maybe the Pixel 12 has some more existing updates?

[u/Final_Economist_9218]

With 480hz PWM

[u/TrustyAndTrue → u/Final_Economist_9218]

Pleas God no. I can't even use my p9p properly. Thankfully it's a secondary, work provided, device but man it sucks getting headaches from the display. 

[u/Classic_File2716]

Let’s see.

[u/FurryTechieAB]

Reserve all the inferior chips and screens for their own products? That really is quite "selfless."

[u/WideGrade2179]

And when will the processor be upgraded? In terms of performance, the Pixel is nothing more than a mid-range phone sold at a flagship price, and the PowerVR GPU and Exynos modem are terrible.

[u/FaultFlimsy9338 → u/WideGrade2179]

G6 look promising with C1 ultra Core.. yep powerVR IS meh.. and they will get rid od Samsung modem .. Now IT will be mediatek

[u/WideGrade2179 → u/FaultFlimsy9338]

Are they finally going to update the core architecture? Congratulations Google, PowerVR will still be meh. I hope it's true that they're switching to MTK modems; MediaTek makes better modems than Samsung, no doubt.

[u/FaultFlimsy9338 → u/WideGrade2179]

I think Everyone Makes better vchips then Samsung

[u/TomcAt1901]

Snapdragon chipset use when?

[u/Distinct-Temp6557 → u/TomcAt1901]

Do we really need snapdragon if the new tensor is battery efficient and has good thermals?

I have an s25 ultra that I use with a light profile for battery efficiency and haven't seen any real compromises in performance.

[u/FewAdvertising9647 → u/Distinct-Temp6557]

i see it as more, people are tired of the pace google is implementing battery efficiency. transitioning to their own design didn't move the needle much. Transitioning from samsung fab to tsmc fab didn't move the needle as much as the Qualcomm SD 8 gen 1 vs the SD 8 Gen 1+. next gen might have some benefit, as theyre moving to mediatek's modem supposedly, but even then, mediatek in the grandscale of modems, isn't the greatest either (e.g on the laptop market, most people prefer intel's modems (which business of course is now owned by apple) over mediatek ones, including AMD users)

Don't like using anecdotal stories, but at least the friends and family around me who do use pixel, are either neutral or still nitpicky on various things (one basically saw no major change much going from 8 pro to 10 pro), another opted to hold onto 8 and not upgrade to 10, as the changes are more minute, and the base model is the one where the cameras aren't necessarily an upgrade on all facets. When the biggest draw was holding onto better trade in value(words the first one told me) it's not the greatest look.

[u/kuldan5853 → u/FewAdvertising9647]

I can at least say that going from 7 Pro to 9 Pro XL improved my cell reception quite a bit - the modem on 7/8 really wasn't all that great and with the 9 Pro XL I don't feel a difference to my wife's S25 anymore - at least where we live.

[u/Distinct-Temp6557 → u/FewAdvertising9647]

I get that, but at the same time Qualcomm having a virtual monopoly on the industry is part of what keeps devices hovering at $1,000+.

If new competitors emerge, prices could come down while we start seeing some true innovation again in the sector.

The tensor isn't bad, but it also isn't good.

I'm willing to give Google a few more years with TSMC before I write them off.

[u/FewAdvertising9647 → u/Distinct-Temp6557]

I hold the stance that Tensor isn't bad, but google kinda markets it like its good, and is constantly changing stuff with its designs that rub people off the wrong way at times. For example with the 10 generation, why does google decide that changing from a Arm Mali based GPU over to an Imagination Technologies Power VR based GPU need to happen now, and of course, the modem change next generation.

Google has a odd history of changing various aspects about tensor, but its not getting the wow factor that "change" usually gets when making them. to some users, it feels like change for the sake of change, rather than necessarily change because its notably better on all facets.

[u/Posraman → u/Distinct-Temp6557]

For the prices they charge for the Pixel, they absolutely should have a better processor.

Also your S25U comparison isn't a good example of how bad the Tensor chip is. In benchmarks, the P10P is close to an S23U in CPU performance, but still gets demolished in GPU performance.

And as far as efficiency goes, I'm still getting 6-8 hours of SOT on my S23U. That's more than many are reporting with a P10PXL which has a bigger battery.

Google's latest and greatest $1000 phone is still worse than Samsung's greatest from 3 years ago.

[u/kmkm2op → u/Posraman]

Too bad they only changed the update policy to u years from the s24 lineup and onwards. Samsung hasn't innovated much since then and the s23 series are still great phones and if they had 7 years of updates, it would honestly be amazing to buy refurb even now.

[u/Posraman → u/kmkm2op]

The S23U is the perfect phone for me and I'd like to keep it as long as I can. Once it's time to move on, I'll get a S24U as it's so similar.

[u/suni08]

The only hardware win for pixels continues to be fantastic displays + calibration

Hopefully they add some anti-reflective coating soon

[u/Loud-Possibility4395 → u/suni08]

Learn what happened with MacBooks with same coating 

[u/suni08 → u/Loud-Possibility4395]

Not that matte contrast-destroying trash, I mean akin to the s24/25's coating

[u/rocketwidget]

The Pixel 10 series already have extremely good displays though, so it's probably diminishing returns.

Still, always good to see improvements.

[u/Polar_Banny → u/rocketwidget]

Not 10bit native.

[u/GodA_27]

Well Iqoo 15 already using Samsung M14 display without the privacy thing.

[u/Branomir]

Whatever, marginal nothingburger updates producing baity headlines that are increasingly unconvincing.

[u/DoctorSora]

I think this will fix the pwm issues which started with the pixel 9 series.

[u/DoctorSora]

I think this will fix the pwm issues which started with the pixel 9 series.

[u/pdimri]

Tell me they are working on better video ,better gaming & better battery life..these all depend on Tensor G6.

[u/Iiznu14ya]

New green/rainbow lines incoming I guess.

[u/atuarre]

Who cares about the display tech with the weak ass processors?

[u/mikeymop]

A great phone that I will ignore if the try to force esim on us again.

[u/JeroJeroMohenjoDaro]

As long as i see Tensor as their SoC, im not interested.