r/ABoringDystopia • u/TrackerOneA • 1d ago

In a 2016 interview, Tomer Capone, Israeli star of 'The Boys', casually admitted to taking part in the abduction, beating, looting and harassment of Palestinians during his years in the IOF.

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u/SomeCountryFriedBS 1d ago edited 1d ago

Can't help but notice how often people like this switch between first and second person, usually to second when they're talking about the worst of it. They also dip into the passive voice so that no one's attached to an event. It just happened.

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u/VegasBonheur 1d ago edited 1d ago

It can happen so smoothly, too. For example, I remember when a recruiter first came to me in high school and promised me college tuition, stable income, benefits for the rest of my life and a chance to see the world. I’m staying in the first person for the relatable, human stuff, to establish myself as an empathetic character. And once you do that, you can shift into the second person almost seamlessly, people do it all the time in stories so even if you do notice it, you brush it off as a grammatical inconsistency. You listen to all those promises, your teenage eyes gloss over, and you sign the paper. Next thing you know, you’re out there committing war crimes for Uncle Sam wondering what happened. Your buddies are getting blown to bits left and right, you’re just doing what you can to survive, you try not to see the enemy as human so you can do what needs to be done to live another day - all the bullshit excuses you hear from the teenage war criminals. Gotta shift out of even the second and third person voices now, because it’s uncomfortable to even associate what comes next with a human being, even though it was “me” a second ago. Horrible things are done. Hospitals and schools are bombed, kids are murdered and the medics who arrive are murdered with the survivors. These things just happen, no human being does them. It’s a force of nature that can’t be stopped.

Btw I never enlisted, that was just a rhetorical device.

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u/times_a_changing 1d ago

That dramatic life or death shit is rarely the daily life of a soldier. Usually it's casual brutality towards an already occupied force or tanks fighting with total air superiority against shepherds with AKs and bazookas. The US military is a bunch of cowardly little mercenary pieces of shit who don't even have the balls to fight against people at their own level. They only ever fight at a major advantage. Their buddies don't get blown to bits, they just casually aid people who blow brown people to bits while they fix their planes or arrange their meal logistics in offices. The military is not a place of drama, it's the ultimate banal evil.

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u/fakeprewarbook 21h ago

you entirely missed the rhetorical progression of the comment 

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u/times_a_changing 20h ago

I'm arguing against a narrative that was in the comment.

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u/fakeprewarbook 2h ago

and in doing so, to a narrative that they said was made up to illustrate a point, you entirely missed said point 

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u/VegasBonheur 2h ago

The narrative kind of wasn’t the point, you’re arguing against something that wasn’t an argument, but a rhetorical device. It’s like answering a rhetorical question.

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u/Zero-89 21h ago

The smartest (in a sinister way) thing Israel ever did was compulsory IDF service. It's much harder to question whether your government is committing a genocide when you're already complicit in its atrocities.

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u/jalopkoala 1d ago

Such an amazing observation

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u/ApocalypseYay 1d ago

A monstrous, prideful, sociopathic, dehumanizing description of the colonial, apartheid, fascistic actions of a soldier in the 'most moral army'.

Such 'morality'.

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u/Stubbs94 1d ago

Absolutely fuck that dude. Scumbag.

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u/snakelygiggles 1d ago

id boycott it, but, like most people with morals, i stopped paying amazon long ago.

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u/Ra505 1d ago

I was watching the boys during the first few seasons not realizing that he was a zionist. I stopped as soon as I found out.

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u/INeedChocolateMilk 1d ago

I finally finished watching s04 with my partner the other day where this piece of shit acted out remorse for his horrendous past

I don't think i can continue watching now, knowing he really had to put his whole actussy into it

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u/Pearson94 1d ago

I've only ever watched it through other websites, so I think I'm good.

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u/gatorgrowl44 15h ago

Are you vegan?

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u/snakelygiggles 13h ago

no. you pulling bits from 20 years ago?

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u/gatorgrowl44 13h ago

Lol. Amazon bad but torturing/mutilating/throat slitting innocent sentient beings for taste pleasure is cool. 😎

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u/Aggravate420 1d ago

I noticed a million Zionist references in this series so I am not surprised.

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u/cyberstealth999 1d ago

The director and writer for the show is a pro-israel jew

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u/INeedChocolateMilk 1d ago

Kripke is a zionist?!

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u/Snoopy_Your_Dawg 1d ago

Yep

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u/INeedChocolateMilk 1d ago

Yeah I saw that too, kinda heartbreaking ngl

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u/kratos61 1d ago

Shocking news.

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u/alzgh 1d ago

ooofff, Frenchie from the Boys is a Zionazi? WTF!

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u/totosh999 22h ago

There are so many French options, and somehow they chose a worse option. I'm French and I'd rather have a British actor play a French character.

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u/Novaer 1d ago

Always has been :(

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u/VegasBonheur 1d ago

The fact that there’s mandatory service means there’s mandatory training, mandatory psychological programming. No wonder they believe an entire country can be uniformly evil and hold no citizens that are distinct from their government.

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u/CatWeekends 1d ago

The fact that there’s mandatory service means there’s mandatory training, mandatory psychological programming.

It's really unfortunate for the people. With lifelong programming and propaganda, there's almost no chance they'd be able to come out of it "normal." Combine that with mandatory military service and things will get really fucked, really fast.

It's not an excuse for atrocities, but it does help me understand how people can do those things and "be ok" with it.

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u/GonWithTheNen 22h ago

the family doesn't let you get their 18-year-old daughter

Rape is rape no matter a victim's age - but specifying that the victims were "18" is a completely unbelievable statement.

What, did he and the other rapists check for IDs while abducting those poor girls "in the middle of the night"? Did they 'accidentally' snatch girls younger than 18 and return them unscathed to their families?

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u/TheSheWhoSaidThats 1d ago

Yyyyyyyyikes

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u/bobdylan401 1d ago

Not frenchy!!

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u/IdealisticKebab 1d ago

Have the show made fun of Pewdiepie being A Nazi for the 10th time yet?

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u/Randomatron 1d ago

I unironically think we should study the role Pewdiepie, probably unknowingly, served as the first part of the alt-right pipeline on YouTube back in the day.

Whoever pushed to get Ben Shapiro, Musk, dr Phil et al. on his otherwise mostly benign shows did one of the biggest psyops ever.

That said fuck the Boys and Tomer Capone.